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	<title>Comments on: Can Christians lose their salvation?</title>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.remote-world.com/2007/05/17/can-a-christian-lose-their-salvation/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like you and I have gone through a lot of the same things (I still am going through it!).  Remember that the Bible says that he who endures to the end will be saved AND that God sees our heart.  Only He knows who we truly are. Yes, I believe that there were times in my life that I would not have been saved, as I had rejected God (If we deny Christ before men, then Christ will deny us before the Father). 
  That said, God is sovereign, and can do as He pleases. I, however, am not in that position and must go by what He has given me. It is kind of like my relationship to my wife or best friend. They know me, and know that when I screw up I will eventually return and repent.  But what if I don't ever do that? Then I am showing what that my true character is. God always waits for the prodigal son, He stands and hopes for his return. But He allows him to leave and go his own way. My son does a lot of disobedient and selfish things, but I love him and will always allow him to repent.  He can, however, depart from what is right and not really repent - instead just lie to me and think I will believe him. I may get fooled, yes, God is not fooled (mocked). 
  Those scriptures in my posts above lay it out well. We have to have a &lt;em&gt;relationship&lt;/em&gt; with the Lord God to be saved. It is not just some ticket we can hold onto and present at the 'pearly gates' someday.
  I understand your present situation.  I am there myself right now. I used to hear from God, but He is being frighteningly silent. And it has been going on for way too long. But then we knew the truth and we abandoned that truth, didn't we?  He has already spoken to us. Maybe now He is waiting to see if we really, really trust Him and mean what we say. 
  Me? I have decided to trust Him. I am willing to wait, though I am not normally a patient person.  He is worth the wait. "Where can we go, Lord? You have the words of life!" 
  I think that, for me at least, God has given me a great deal and I squandered it. Since I am no longer a child-Christian, God is treating me in a more 'adult' manner.  It is time for me to grow up and use what I have been given before He will give me more.  Though I also am groaning under that deafening silence, I realize that He is still speaking to me though His Word and through what He has spoken to me in the past. I must endure until I am where He knows I am ready for more. I trust Him in that.  &lt;em&gt;Everything in life has brought me to that point.&lt;/em&gt; I trust HIM, and that is what He calls "faith".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like you and I have gone through a lot of the same things (I still am going through it!).  Remember that the Bible says that he who endures to the end will be saved AND that God sees our heart.  Only He knows who we truly are. Yes, I believe that there were times in my life that I would not have been saved, as I had rejected God (If we deny Christ before men, then Christ will deny us before the Father).<br />
  That said, God is sovereign, and can do as He pleases. I, however, am not in that position and must go by what He has given me. It is kind of like my relationship to my wife or best friend. They know me, and know that when I screw up I will eventually return and repent.  But what if I don&#8217;t ever do that? Then I am showing what that my true character is. God always waits for the prodigal son, He stands and hopes for his return. But He allows him to leave and go his own way. My son does a lot of disobedient and selfish things, but I love him and will always allow him to repent.  He can, however, depart from what is right and not really repent - instead just lie to me and think I will believe him. I may get fooled, yes, God is not fooled (mocked).<br />
  Those scriptures in my posts above lay it out well. We have to have a <em>relationship</em> with the Lord God to be saved. It is not just some ticket we can hold onto and present at the &#8216;pearly gates&#8217; someday.<br />
  I understand your present situation.  I am there myself right now. I used to hear from God, but He is being frighteningly silent. And it has been going on for way too long. But then we knew the truth and we abandoned that truth, didn&#8217;t we?  He has already spoken to us. Maybe now He is waiting to see if we really, really trust Him and mean what we say.<br />
  Me? I have decided to trust Him. I am willing to wait, though I am not normally a patient person.  He is worth the wait. &#8220;Where can we go, Lord? You have the words of life!&#8221;<br />
  I think that, for me at least, God has given me a great deal and I squandered it. Since I am no longer a child-Christian, God is treating me in a more &#8216;adult&#8217; manner.  It is time for me to grow up and use what I have been given before He will give me more.  Though I also am groaning under that deafening silence, I realize that He is still speaking to me though His Word and through what He has spoken to me in the past. I must endure until I am where He knows I am ready for more. I trust Him in that.  <em>Everything in life has brought me to that point.</em> I trust HIM, and that is what He calls &#8220;faith&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Returning Prodigal</title>
		<link>http://www.remote-world.com/2007/05/17/can-a-christian-lose-their-salvation/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Returning Prodigal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What, then do you say to a Christian (Me) who was going through great difficulty in life: 

Began asking the "normal" philosophical questions that crop up between the ages of 15-28.  (You know the questions.)

Asked God to let him start from square 1 (Atheism) and find "Truth", in its untainted, original form, without cultural, or parental influence.

Oh, crap... God went away... Almost like being saved again!  Free from authority, free as can...wait...mommy?  Daddy?  I'm lost in the candy store!

5 years later:  God, I believe in you now, I've come back!  (Deep, ominous silence)  I'm back, hello?  (                )  (That was silence)

As of right now, God is not answering.  How, then, can I be saved?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, then do you say to a Christian (Me) who was going through great difficulty in life: </p>
<p>Began asking the &#8220;normal&#8221; philosophical questions that crop up between the ages of 15-28.  (You know the questions.)</p>
<p>Asked God to let him start from square 1 (Atheism) and find &#8220;Truth&#8221;, in its untainted, original form, without cultural, or parental influence.</p>
<p>Oh, crap&#8230; God went away&#8230; Almost like being saved again!  Free from authority, free as can&#8230;wait&#8230;mommy?  Daddy?  I&#8217;m lost in the candy store!</p>
<p>5 years later:  God, I believe in you now, I&#8217;ve come back!  (Deep, ominous silence)  I&#8217;m back, hello?  (                )  (That was silence)</p>
<p>As of right now, God is not answering.  How, then, can I be saved?</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.remote-world.com/2007/05/17/can-a-christian-lose-their-salvation/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;Leona,&#160; Again 
apologies for the delay!&#160; I have replied to your letter below, within the 
original letter.&#160; If you find anything I say to be offensive or rude or gruff, 
please know that it is just my way of talking and is not intended to offend - so 
please forgive me in advance, as some of it may seem harsh.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;&#160;-john S.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;Hi John. I would have liked to 
have replied sooner too but time just&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;did not permit. I have done 
some research and here are several reasons&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;that I have found that show a 
saved person can never loose their&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;salvation. I will admit that I 
did nto have time to do all the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;research my self but I found a 
great book to help me start out my&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;research. I checked out each of 
the verses and the context in which&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;they are used and agree with 
each of them. So here goes. I sure hope&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;this comes out right. Im 
cutting and pasting form the word program I&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;saved it to. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;Bible Reasons Why A Saved 
Person Can Never Be Lost&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;1.&#160; ETERNAL LIFE is ETERNAL and 
EVERLASTING LIFE is EVERLASTING &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; And I give 
unto them eternal life; and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; they shall 
never perish, neither shall&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; any man pluck 
them out of my hand.&#160;&#160; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; (Joh 10:28)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; Verily, 
verily, I say unto you, He that&#160; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; heareth my 
word, and believeth on &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; him that sent 
me, hath everlasting life,&#160;&#160; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; and shall not 
come into condemnation; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; but is passed 
from death unto life.&#160;&#160; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; (Joh 5:24)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;If the ETERNAL life you 
received as a gift from God ever ceases for&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;any reason it was not ETERNAL. 
Those who assume they have some sort of&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;spiritual life, which ceases 
through sinful living, a change in&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;beliefs, or for any other 
reason - did not have ETERNAL life. To be&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;truly ETERNAL, it must not end.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;Likewise, if EVERLASTING life 
ever ceases for ay reason - it was not&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;EVERLASTING by the obvious 
definition of the word. The life, which God&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;gives to the believer, must not 
end at any time, or it was never&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;EVERLASTING life in the first 
place.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;'Eternal' is a 
characteristic if the gift 'life', not a characteristic of the conditions or 
acceptance of the gift.&#160; If someone sends you red roses and you refuse them, 
they do not become any less red. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;2.&#160; It is not the will of God 
for a saved person to ever be lost.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; And this is the 
Father's will which hath &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; sent me, that of 
all which he hath given&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; me I should lose 
nothing, but should &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; raise it up 
again at the last day.&#160; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; (Joh 6:39)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;Since Ephesians 1:11 says that 
God "worketh all things after the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;counsel of His own will," His 
will must be fulfilled in preserving&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;our salvation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;By this reasoning, 
since no one can resist the will of God, ALL will be saved, for this is God's 
will, including Judas Iscariot and the anti-christ.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;3.&#160; You already Have 
reservations in Heaven. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; The Salvation You Have is 
INCORRUPTIBLE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; The Salvation You Have 
Inherited Cannot be&#160; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; DEFILED&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; You have been born of 
incorruptible seed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; &#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;To an 
inheritance incorruptible, and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; undefiled, and 
that fadeth not away, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; reserved in 
heaven for you,&#160; (1Pe 1:4)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; Being born 
again, not of corruptible seed, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; but of 
incorruptible,by the word of God, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; which liveth and 
abideth forever.&#160; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; (1Pe 1:23)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;Also Matthew 19:29 says that 
this inheritance includes everlasting life. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;Neither You nor Satan, nor 
anyone else can corrupt that which God has&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;declared to be INCORRUBTIBLE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;Neither You, nor Satan, nor 
anyone else can defile that which God has&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;declared to be UNDEFILED&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;Your new birth was accomplished 
by an INCORRUPTIBLE SEED, and neither&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;Satan nor man can corrupt a 
birth which God has declared to be&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;INCORRUBTIBLE.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;Certainly the 
Eternal Life cannot be corrupted so as to become non-eternal, but you ignore
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;Heb 6:4&#160; For it is impossible 
for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and 
were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;5&#160; And have tasted the good 
word of God, and the powers of the world to come,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;6&#160; If they shall fall away, to 
renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of 
God afresh, and put him to an open shame.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;7&#160; For the earth which drinketh 
in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by 
whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;8&#160; But that which beareth 
thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be 
burned.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;9 &#160; But, beloved, we are 
persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we 
thus speak.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;10&#160; For God is not unrighteous 
to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in 
that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;11&#160; And we desire that every 
one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the 
end:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;12&#160; That ye be not slothful, 
but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;4.&#160; At salvation you were 
sealed by the Holy Spirit. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; In whom ye also 
trusted, after that ye &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; heard the word of 
truth, the gospel of your &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; salvation: in whom 
also after that ye &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; believed, ye were 
sealed with that Holy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; Spirit of 
promise,&#160; (Eph 1:13)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;No Power on Earth or in Heaven 
can break the seal set in place by&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;Omnipotence.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal"&gt;Romans 10: 9 &#38; 10&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal"&gt;&#160; That if thou shalt 
confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thy heart that God 
hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man 
belivieth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto 
salvation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;If we look into the 
word "believe" in the original Greek we find that it is "pistikos", &lt;i&gt;to have 
faith,&lt;/i&gt; and is from the word "pistis", which means persuasion and is used to 
indicate constancy in such a profession.&#160; This, in turn, agrees with all those 
verses I mentioned that speak of endurance, clinging to, and abiding in.&#160; Do we 
throw out those passages and only keep the ones we like? Who is being God then 
if we do? WE ARE!&#160; The word of God must be integrated as a whole and accepted as 
the whole Word of God.&#160; Do we have assurance of our salvation? YES!, But there 
ARE conditions.&#160; Namely, continuing faith and confession. The word tells us of 
those who have had a relationship with Christ and who HAVE HAD the Spirit, but 
turned back, away from God. Those people have rejected the free gift of God that 
they once accepted.&#160; God's gift did not change, the heart of the recipient 
did!&#160;&#160; Otherwise, who is the writer talking about in Hebrews where it is 
written:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;Heb 10:25&#160; Not forsaking the 
assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one 
another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;26&#160; For if we sin wilfully 
after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more 
sacrifice for sins,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;27&#160; But a certain fearful 
looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the 
adversaries.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;28&#160; He that despised Moses' law 
died without mercy under two or three witnesses:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;29&#160; Of how much sorer 
punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot 
the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was 
sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;30&#160; For we know him that hath 
said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, 
The Lord shall judge his people.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;31&#160; It is a fearful thing to 
fall into the hands of the living God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;38&#160; Now the just shall live by 
faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;39&#160; But we are not of them who 
draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;5.&#160;&#160; The Holy Spirit Promised 
to Abide with You&#160; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; &#160;&#160;&#160;FOREVER&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; &lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; And I will pray 
the Father, and he shall &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; give you another 
Comforter, that he may &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; abide with you 
forever; Even the Spirit of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; truth; whom the 
world cannot receive, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; because it seeth 
him not, neither knoweth &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; him: but ye know 
him; for he dwelleth with &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; you, and shall be 
in you. (Joh 14:16-17)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;The coming of the Holy Spirit 
at Salvation to indwell the believer is&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;a permanent transaction which 
lasts forever.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;This refers to those 
who REMAIN in Him, or do you reject Paul's words &lt;i&gt;&lt;u&gt;to believers&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/i&gt; in 
Romans 11:20,21:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal"&gt;Because of their 
unbelief they were broken off, and &lt;u&gt;thou standeth by faith&lt;/u&gt;. Be not 
high-minded, &lt;u&gt;but fear&lt;/u&gt;: For if God spared not the natural branches, take 
heed &lt;u&gt;lest He also not spare thee&lt;/u&gt;.&#160; Behold therefore the goodness and 
severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, &lt;u&gt;if 
thou continue&lt;/u&gt; in His goodness: &lt;u&gt;otherwise thou shalt also be cut off&lt;/u&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;How do we reconcile 
this against vs. 29, which says " For the gifts and calling of God are without 
repentance."? This does not contradict what Paul just said, instead it 
emphasizes it!&#160; God is faithful, He expects the same from us, or we will be 
removed from the tree!&#160; This is not God's will if this happens, it is ours!&#160; God 
will not force us to stay with Him and enjoy His blessings - we can play the 
harlot, the prodigal, and leave, never to return.&#160; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;6. You are preserved forever.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; For the LORD 
loveth judgment, and&#160; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; forsaketh not 
his saints; they are &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; preserved 
forever: but the seed of the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; wicked shall be 
cut off.&#160; (Psa 37:28)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;The Bible identifies all who 
have been saved by the grace of God as&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;"saints". And " His saints are 
PRESERVED FOREVER"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;Yes, if we ARE His 
saints, but what of those who turn against Him and become once more the "seed of 
the wicked"? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: -.25in; text-autospace: none; margin-left: .25in"&gt;
&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;Jas 2:19&#160; Thou believest that there is one God; thou 
doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;20&#160; But wilt thou know, O vain 
man, that faith without works is dead?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;2 Peter&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;20&#160; For if after they have 
escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and 
Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter 
end is worse with them than the beginning.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;21&#160; For it had been better for 
them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, 
to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;1John 2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;22&#160; Who is a liar but he that 
denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and 
the Son.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;23&#160; Whosoever denieth the Son, 
the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the 
Father also.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;24&#160; Let that therefore abide in 
you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from 
the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the 
Father.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;Rev 2:11&#160; He that hath an ear, 
let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall 
not be hurt of the second death.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&#160;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;7.&#160; You have been born of God 
and cannot be&#160; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; unborn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; You have been created by 
God and can never &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; be uncreated&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; But as many as 
received him, to them &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; gave he power to 
become the sons of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; God, even to 
them that believe on his &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; name: Which were 
born, not of blood, nor &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; of the will of 
the flesh, nor of the will&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; of man, but of 
God.&#160; (Joh 1:12-13)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; Therefore if any 
man be in Christ, he is a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; new creature: 
old things passed away; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; behold, all 
things are become new. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; (2Co 5:17)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; For we are his 
workmanship, created in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; Christ Jesus 
unto good works, which &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; God hath before 
ordained that we should &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; walk in them. 
(Eph 2:10)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;To facilitate our understanding 
of salvation, the Lord Jesus likened&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;receiving eternal life to 
physical birth. He called it being "born&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;again". That analogy would be 
destroyed if someone who has been born&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;of God could ever be "unborn" 
at some future time. There is only&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;one Creator and that which He 
created cannot be uncreated&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal"&gt;Romans 19: 11  &#160; And 
that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now 
is our salvation nearer than when we believed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;What?!&#160; Are these 
saints saved or not?&#160; What can it mean that their salvation is nearer?&#160; If they 
are born again then they are already saved, aren't they?&#160;&#160; BOTH ARE CORRECT.&#160; 
God's ways are higher than ours, and our understanding is weak.&#160; Because we have 
a hard time reconciling these two ideas does not make the Scriptures wrong or 
make God a liar.&#160; NOR DOES IT MEAN WE CAN PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH PASSAGES APPLY 
TO US!&#160; In all the passages I have investigated the conditional words "faith", 
"believe", "continue", "abide", "endure", etc. all are used in the sense of a 
continuing action. You have been given the power, by God, to believe or 
disbelieve, to follow God or to leave Him.&#160; Do you actually believe that after 
you have believed in Christ that you no longer have a choice?&#160; What then of the 
passages I have mentioned? What of Christ speaking to the Father and saying
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:teal"&gt;(John17:12)&#160; While I was with them, I kept them in thy name, 
which thou hast given me; I have guarded them, and none of them is lost but the 
son of perdition, that the scripture might be fulfilled.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;&#160; 
God had given Judas to Christ also, did God take him back.&#160; How could Judas be 
"lost", except that he had been "found"?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;8.&#160; You are preserved unto the 
Heavenly Kingdom&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; And the Lord 
shall deliver me from every &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; evil work, and 
will preserve me unto his &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; heavenly 
kingdom: to whom be glory &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; forever and 
ever. Amen. (2Ti 4:18)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;This was the testimony of the 
Apostle Paul by inspiration of the Holy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;Spirit, but it is our testimony 
as well because the Bible says that&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;"God is no respecter of 
persons". If he will preserve Paul, He&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;will preserve you.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;Why does Paul turn 
men who were Christians over to Satan? Paul says they had faith!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal"&gt;18 &#160; This charge I 
commit to you, Timothy, my son, in accordance with the prophetic utterances 
which pointed to you, that inspired by them you may wage the good warfare,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal"&gt;19&#160; holding faith 
and a good conscience. By rejecting conscience, certain persons have made 
shipwreck of their faith,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal"&gt;20&#160; among them 
Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have delivered to Satan that they may learn not 
to blaspheme.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;9. You are kept by the power of 
God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; Who are kept by 
the power of God &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; through faith 
unto salvation ready to be &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; revealed in the 
last time.&#160; (1Pe 1:5)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;Your salvation comes, 
initially, "through faith", but you are&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;"kept by the power of God". How 
could anyone kept by the power of&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;God ever fail to be kept?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;You seem to have 
forgot the "through faith" part.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;10.&#160; You are secure because the 
Lord Jesus has&#160; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; prayed that you would 
be. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; And now I am no 
more in the world, but &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; these are in the 
world,and I come to thee. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; Holy Father, 
keep through thine own &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; name those whom 
thou hast given me, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; that they may be 
one, as we are.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; (Joh 17:11)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;When God the Son prays that you 
will be kept, you may rest assured&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;that His prayer will be 
answered.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;So Christians no 
longer have free will? How then did Peter deny Christ? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;Christ prayed that 
all Christians would be one.&#160; Is there one church?&#160; Do we all agree?&#160; This 
prayer is similar to another Christ prayed aloud - to let His disciples hear His 
will and for their benefit.&#160; Christ never said that since He wished it it would 
be so.&#160; He still gives us free will. Let's not twist the Word to suit us.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;11.&#160; Salvation is of the Lord.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; But I will 
sacrifice unto thee with the voice &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; of thanksgiving; 
I will pay that that I have &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; vowed. Salvation 
is of the LORD. (Jon 2:9)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; I know that, 
whatsoever God doeth, it &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; shall be 
forever: nothing can be put to it, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; nor any thing 
taken from it: and God &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; doeth it, that 
men should fear before &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; him.&#160; (Ecc 3:14)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;Salvation is of the Lord, and 
if the Lord is the one who has saved you&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;" I KNOW THAT WHATSOEVER GOD 
DOETH, IT SHALL BE FOREVER"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;Again you ignore all 
the other passages!&#160; The question of salvation is of two parts: 1) God provides 
it as a free gift forever; 2) We have it as long as we follow Him and accept the 
gift. God will not change, but men do! God is always faithful, but Christians 
are CONSTANTLY encouraged to remain faithful. Why?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;What of this in&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;
&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:teal"&gt;1Peter 1?&#160; 10&#160; Therefore, brethren, be the more 
zealous to &lt;u&gt;confirm your call and election,&lt;/u&gt; for if you do this you will 
never fall;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal"&gt;11 &lt;u&gt;&#160;so there will 
be&lt;/u&gt; richly provided for you an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord 
and Savior Jesus Christ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;.&#160;
&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:blue"&gt;&#160;Why do these believers need to worry about being 
able to enter into eternal life?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;12. Your salvation is dependant 
only upon God's&#160;&#160; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; ability&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; For I know whom 
I have believed, and am &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; persuaded that 
He is able to keep that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; which I have 
committed unto Him against &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; that day. (2Ti 
1:12)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;If you have committed your 
eternal soul to the Lord, the Bible says He&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;is able to keep it until that 
day when you are with Him in His&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;presence.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;And what of those 
who are no longer commited to God?&#160; Is Christ a liar when He says that if we 
deny Him before men He will deny us before the Father?&#160; Peter denied Christ 
before men, was he lost at that moment (Christ cannot lie), or was his 
repentance and heart toward God that which consequently saved him?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;13.&#160;&#160; God promises you shall 
not come into&#160;&#160;&#160; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; condemnation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;The Lord Jesus promises that 
you shall never&#160;&#160; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; perish.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; Verily, verily, 
I say unto you, He that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; heareth my word, 
and believeth on him &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; that sent me, 
hath everlasting life, and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; shall not come 
into condemnation; but is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; passed from 
death unto life.&#160; (Joh 5:24)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; My sheep hear my 
voice, and I know &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; them, and they 
follow me:And I give unto &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; them eternal 
life; and they shall never &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; perish, neither 
shall any man pluck them &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160; &#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;out of my hand.&#160; 
(Joh 10:27-28)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;If anyone who has ever been 
saved, ever again came into condemnation,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;this promise would be broken.&#160;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;Notice that Jesus did not make 
His promise conditional upon a certain&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;lifestyle.&#160; He said 
unequivocally "I give unto them eternal life and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;they shall NEVER PERISH" &lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;Again, "believeth" 
is a continuing action, His sheep are those who "continue in the faith"(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:blue"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;Joh 8:31, Ac 
13:43, Ac 14:22, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.5pt;color:blue"&gt;Ro 11:22, Col 
1:23, and so on and so on...)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;14.&#160; You will never be cast 
out.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160; &#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;All that the 
Father giveth me shall come &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; to me; and him 
that cometh to me I will in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; no wise cast 
out.&#160; (Joh 6:37)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;The promise of the Lord Jesus 
is that for no reason, and in no way&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;will He ever cast out those who 
have been given into His care by God&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;the Father.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;But we can leave, he 
will not prevent us!&#160; Witness Christï¿½s parable of the prodigal son! He was not 
cast out when he returned.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;YOU CAN NOT IGNORE 
SOME SCRIPTURE JUST BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FIT INTO WHAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE! &lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal"&gt;2 Titus 3:16&#160; All 
scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for 
reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal"&gt;17&#160; That the man of 
God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;15.&#160; It would not be good for 
you to loose your&#160;&#160;&#160; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; salvation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; And we know that 
all things work together &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; for good to them 
that love God, to them &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; who are the 
called according to his &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; purpose. (Rom 
8:28) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;This verse is directed toward 
believers. The lost would not love God&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;(1 John 4:7b). How could it 
ever work together FOR GOOD to loose your&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;salvation? Yet, God promises 
that ALL THINGS will work together FOR&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;YOUR GOOD once you have 
received His gift of eternal life. And it&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;would not be good for you to 
loose your salvation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#3366FF"&gt;Continuing 
action:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:teal"&gt;&#160; "to them that love God"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;It is God's will 
that NONE should perish, there is obviously another factor here - our will!
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;Certainly we see 
many things, even in our churches, that are not 'good', and people fall away 
every day. If they cease to love God, then they cease to be saved - salvation is 
by relationship with Christ.&#160; There are absolutely too many "ifs" in scripture 
for it to be any other way. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;16.&#160; You are in the hand of 
Christ.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; You are in the hand of 
the Father.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; And I give unto 
them eternal life; and they &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; shall never 
perish, neither shall any man &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; pluck them out 
of my hand.&#160; (Joh 10:28)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160; &#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;My Father, which 
gave them me, is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; greater than 
all; and no man is able to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; pluck them out 
of my Father's hand. I and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; my Father are 
one.&#160; (Joh 10:29-30)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;Some say you must 'hold out' in 
order to be saved. The Bible says&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;that the Lord is doing the 
holding.&#160; What's more you have double&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;security. You are in the hand 
of both the Father and the hand of the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;Son. "No man" includes you, so 
you cannot remove yourself from the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"&gt;hands of God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;You don't "hold 
out", you remain faithful, or else!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;&lt;b&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Leona,&nbsp; Again<br />
apologies for the delay!&nbsp; I have replied to your letter below, within the<br />
original letter.&nbsp; If you find anything I say to be offensive or rude or gruff,<br />
please know that it is just my way of talking and is not intended to offend - so<br />
please forgive me in advance, as some of it may seem harsh.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">&nbsp;-john S.</span></b></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Hi John. I would have liked to<br />
have replied sooner too but time just</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">did not permit. I have done<br />
some research and here are several reasons</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">that I have found that show a<br />
saved person can never loose their</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">salvation. I will admit that I<br />
did nto have time to do all the</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">research my self but I found a<br />
great book to help me start out my</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">research. I checked out each of<br />
the verses and the context in which</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">they are used and agree with<br />
each of them. So here goes. I sure hope</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">this comes out right. Im<br />
cutting and pasting form the word program I</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">saved it to. </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Bible Reasons Why A Saved<br />
Person Can Never Be Lost</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">1.&nbsp; ETERNAL LIFE is ETERNAL and<br />
EVERLASTING LIFE is EVERLASTING </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; And I give<br />
unto them eternal life; and </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; they shall<br />
never perish, neither shall</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; any man pluck<br />
them out of my hand.&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (Joh 10:28)</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Verily,<br />
verily, I say unto you, He that&nbsp; </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; heareth my<br />
word, and believeth on </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; him that sent<br />
me, hath everlasting life,&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and shall not<br />
come into condemnation; </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; but is passed<br />
from death unto life.&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (Joh 5:24)</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">If the ETERNAL life you<br />
received as a gift from God ever ceases for</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">any reason it was not ETERNAL.<br />
Those who assume they have some sort of</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">spiritual life, which ceases<br />
through sinful living, a change in</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">beliefs, or for any other<br />
reason - did not have ETERNAL life. To be</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">truly ETERNAL, it must not end.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Likewise, if EVERLASTING life<br />
ever ceases for ay reason - it was not</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">EVERLASTING by the obvious<br />
definition of the word. The life, which God</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">gives to the believer, must not<br />
end at any time, or it was never</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">EVERLASTING life in the first<br />
place.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">&#8216;Eternal&#8217; is a<br />
characteristic if the gift &#8216;life&#8217;, not a characteristic of the conditions or<br />
acceptance of the gift.&nbsp; If someone sends you red roses and you refuse them,<br />
they do not become any less red. </span></b></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">2.&nbsp; It is not the will of God<br />
for a saved person to ever be lost.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; And this is the<br />
Father&#8217;s will which hath </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; sent me, that of<br />
all which he hath given</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; me I should lose<br />
nothing, but should </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; raise it up<br />
again at the last day.&nbsp; </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (Joh 6:39)</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Since Ephesians 1:11 says that<br />
God &#8220;worketh all things after the</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">counsel of His own will,&#8221; His<br />
will must be fulfilled in preserving</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">our salvation</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">By this reasoning,<br />
since no one can resist the will of God, ALL will be saved, for this is God&#8217;s<br />
will, including Judas Iscariot and the anti-christ.</span></b></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">3.&nbsp; You already Have<br />
reservations in Heaven. </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Salvation You Have is<br />
INCORRUPTIBLE</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Salvation You Have<br />
Inherited Cannot be&nbsp; </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; DEFILED</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You have been born of<br />
incorruptible seed.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;To an<br />
inheritance incorruptible, and </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; undefiled, and<br />
that fadeth not away, </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; reserved in<br />
heaven for you,&nbsp; (1Pe 1:4)</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Being born<br />
again, not of corruptible seed, </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; but of<br />
incorruptible,by the word of God, </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; which liveth and<br />
abideth forever.&nbsp; </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (1Pe 1:23)</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Also Matthew 19:29 says that<br />
this inheritance includes everlasting life. </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Neither You nor Satan, nor<br />
anyone else can corrupt that which God has</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">declared to be INCORRUBTIBLE</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Neither You, nor Satan, nor<br />
anyone else can defile that which God has</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">declared to be UNDEFILED</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Your new birth was accomplished<br />
by an INCORRUPTIBLE SEED, and neither</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Satan nor man can corrupt a<br />
birth which God has declared to be</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">INCORRUBTIBLE.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Certainly the<br />
Eternal Life cannot be corrupted so as to become non-eternal, but you ignore<br />
</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">Heb 6:4&nbsp; For it is impossible<br />
for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and<br />
were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">5&nbsp; And have tasted the good<br />
word of God, and the powers of the world to come,</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">6&nbsp; If they shall fall away, to<br />
renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of<br />
God afresh, and put him to an open shame.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">7&nbsp; For the earth which drinketh<br />
in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by<br />
whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">8&nbsp; But that which beareth<br />
thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be<br />
burned.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">9 &nbsp; But, beloved, we are<br />
persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we<br />
thus speak.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">10&nbsp; For God is not unrighteous<br />
to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in<br />
that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">11&nbsp; And we desire that every<br />
one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the<br />
end:</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">12&nbsp; That ye be not slothful,<br />
but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.</span></b></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">&nbsp;</span></b></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">4.&nbsp; At salvation you were<br />
sealed by the Holy Spirit. </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In whom ye also<br />
trusted, after that ye </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; heard the word of<br />
truth, the gospel of your </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; salvation: in whom<br />
also after that ye </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; believed, ye were<br />
sealed with that Holy</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Spirit of<br />
promise,&nbsp; (Eph 1:13)</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">No Power on Earth or in Heaven<br />
can break the seal set in place by</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Omnipotence.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal">Romans 10: 9 &amp; 10</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal">&nbsp; That if thou shalt<br />
confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thy heart that God<br />
hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man<br />
belivieth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto<br />
salvation.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">If we look into the<br />
word &#8220;believe&#8221; in the original Greek we find that it is &#8220;pistikos&#8221;, <i>to have<br />
faith,</i> and is from the word &#8220;pistis&#8221;, which means persuasion and is used to<br />
indicate constancy in such a profession.&nbsp; This, in turn, agrees with all those<br />
verses I mentioned that speak of endurance, clinging to, and abiding in.&nbsp; Do we<br />
throw out those passages and only keep the ones we like? Who is being God then<br />
if we do? WE ARE!&nbsp; The word of God must be integrated as a whole and accepted as<br />
the whole Word of God.&nbsp; Do we have assurance of our salvation? YES!, But there<br />
ARE conditions.&nbsp; Namely, continuing faith and confession. The word tells us of<br />
those who have had a relationship with Christ and who HAVE HAD the Spirit, but<br />
turned back, away from God. Those people have rejected the free gift of God that<br />
they once accepted.&nbsp; God&#8217;s gift did not change, the heart of the recipient<br />
did!&nbsp;&nbsp; Otherwise, who is the writer talking about in Hebrews where it is<br />
written:</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">Heb 10:25&nbsp; Not forsaking the<br />
assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one<br />
another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">26&nbsp; For if we sin wilfully<br />
after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more<br />
sacrifice for sins,</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">27&nbsp; But a certain fearful<br />
looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the<br />
adversaries.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">28&nbsp; He that despised Moses&#8217; law<br />
died without mercy under two or three witnesses:</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">29&nbsp; Of how much sorer<br />
punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot<br />
the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was<br />
sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">30&nbsp; For we know him that hath<br />
said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again,<br />
The Lord shall judge his people.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">31&nbsp; It is a fearful thing to<br />
fall into the hands of the living God.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">&nbsp;</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">38&nbsp; Now the just shall live by<br />
faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">39&nbsp; But we are not of them who<br />
draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal">&nbsp;</span></b></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">5.&nbsp;&nbsp; The Holy Spirit Promised<br />
to Abide with You&nbsp; </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;FOREVER&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>
</p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; And I will pray<br />
the Father, and he shall </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; give you another<br />
Comforter, that he may </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; abide with you<br />
forever; Even the Spirit of </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; truth; whom the<br />
world cannot receive, </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; because it seeth<br />
him not, neither knoweth </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; him: but ye know<br />
him; for he dwelleth with </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; you, and shall be<br />
in you. (Joh 14:16-17)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">The coming of the Holy Spirit<br />
at Salvation to indwell the believer is</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">a permanent transaction which<br />
lasts forever.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">This refers to those<br />
who REMAIN in Him, or do you reject Paul&#8217;s words <i><u>to believers</u></i> in<br />
Romans 11:20,21:</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal">Because of their<br />
unbelief they were broken off, and <u>thou standeth by faith</u>. Be not<br />
high-minded, <u>but fear</u>: For if God spared not the natural branches, take<br />
heed <u>lest He also not spare thee</u>.&nbsp; Behold therefore the goodness and<br />
severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, <u>if<br />
thou continue</u> in His goodness: <u>otherwise thou shalt also be cut off</u>.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">How do we reconcile<br />
this against vs. 29, which says &#8221; For the gifts and calling of God are without<br />
repentance.&#8221;? This does not contradict what Paul just said, instead it<br />
emphasizes it!&nbsp; God is faithful, He expects the same from us, or we will be<br />
removed from the tree!&nbsp; This is not God&#8217;s will if this happens, it is ours!&nbsp; God<br />
will not force us to stay with Him and enjoy His blessings - we can play the<br />
harlot, the prodigal, and leave, never to return.&nbsp; </span></b></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">6. You are preserved forever.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; For the LORD<br />
loveth judgment, and&nbsp; </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; forsaketh not<br />
his saints; they are </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; preserved<br />
forever: but the seed of the </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; wicked shall be<br />
cut off.&nbsp; (Psa 37:28)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">The Bible identifies all who<br />
have been saved by the grace of God as</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&#8220;saints&#8221;. And &#8221; His saints are<br />
PRESERVED FOREVER&#8221;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Yes, if we ARE His<br />
saints, but what of those who turn against Him and become once more the &#8220;seed of<br />
the wicked&#8221;? </span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: -.25in; text-autospace: none; margin-left: .25in">
<b><span style="color:teal">Jas 2:19&nbsp; Thou believest that there is one God; thou<br />
doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">20&nbsp; But wilt thou know, O vain<br />
man, that faith without works is dead?</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">2 Peter</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">20&nbsp; For if after they have<br />
escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and<br />
Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter<br />
end is worse with them than the beginning.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">21&nbsp; For it had been better for<br />
them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it,<br />
to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">&nbsp;</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">1John 2</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">22&nbsp; Who is a liar but he that<br />
denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and<br />
the Son.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">23&nbsp; Whosoever denieth the Son,<br />
the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the<br />
Father also.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">24&nbsp; Let that therefore abide in<br />
you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from<br />
the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the<br />
Father.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">&nbsp;</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:teal">Rev 2:11&nbsp; He that hath an ear,<br />
let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall<br />
not be hurt of the second death.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>&nbsp;</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal">&nbsp;</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">7.&nbsp; You have been born of God<br />
and cannot be&nbsp; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; unborn</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You have been created by<br />
God and can never </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; be uncreated</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; But as many as<br />
received him, to them </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; gave he power to<br />
become the sons of </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; God, even to<br />
them that believe on his </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; name: Which were<br />
born, not of blood, nor </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; of the will of<br />
the flesh, nor of the will</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; of man, but of<br />
God.&nbsp; (Joh 1:12-13)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Therefore if any<br />
man be in Christ, he is a </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; new creature:<br />
old things passed away; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; behold, all<br />
things are become new. </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (2Co 5:17)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; For we are his<br />
workmanship, created in </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Christ Jesus<br />
unto good works, which </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; God hath before<br />
ordained that we should </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; walk in them.<br />
(Eph 2:10)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">To facilitate our understanding<br />
of salvation, the Lord Jesus likened</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">receiving eternal life to<br />
physical birth. He called it being &#8220;born</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">again&#8221;. That analogy would be<br />
destroyed if someone who has been born</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">of God could ever be &#8220;unborn&#8221;<br />
at some future time. There is only</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">one Creator and that which He<br />
created cannot be uncreated</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal">Romans 19: 11  &nbsp; And<br />
that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now<br />
is our salvation nearer than when we believed.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">What?!&nbsp; Are these<br />
saints saved or not?&nbsp; What can it mean that their salvation is nearer?&nbsp; If they<br />
are born again then they are already saved, aren&#8217;t they?&nbsp;&nbsp; BOTH ARE CORRECT.&nbsp;<br />
God&#8217;s ways are higher than ours, and our understanding is weak.&nbsp; Because we have<br />
a hard time reconciling these two ideas does not make the Scriptures wrong or<br />
make God a liar.&nbsp; NOR DOES IT MEAN WE CAN PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH PASSAGES APPLY<br />
TO US!&nbsp; In all the passages I have investigated the conditional words &#8220;faith&#8221;,<br />
&#8220;believe&#8221;, &#8220;continue&#8221;, &#8220;abide&#8221;, &#8220;endure&#8221;, etc. all are used in the sense of a<br />
continuing action. You have been given the power, by God, to believe or<br />
disbelieve, to follow God or to leave Him.&nbsp; Do you actually believe that after<br />
you have believed in Christ that you no longer have a choice?&nbsp; What then of the<br />
passages I have mentioned? What of Christ speaking to the Father and saying<br />
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:<br />
Arial;color:teal">(John17:12)&nbsp; While I was with them, I kept them in thy name,<br />
which thou hast given me; I have guarded them, and none of them is lost but the<br />
son of perdition, that the scripture might be fulfilled.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">&nbsp;<br />
God had given Judas to Christ also, did God take him back.&nbsp; How could Judas be<br />
&#8220;lost&#8221;, except that he had been &#8220;found&#8221;?</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">8.&nbsp; You are preserved unto the<br />
Heavenly Kingdom</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; And the Lord<br />
shall deliver me from every </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; evil work, and<br />
will preserve me unto his </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; heavenly<br />
kingdom: to whom be glory </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; forever and<br />
ever. Amen. (2Ti 4:18)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">This was the testimony of the<br />
Apostle Paul by inspiration of the Holy</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Spirit, but it is our testimony<br />
as well because the Bible says that</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&#8220;God is no respecter of<br />
persons&#8221;. If he will preserve Paul, He</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">will preserve you.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Why does Paul turn<br />
men who were Christians over to Satan? Paul says they had faith!</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal">18 &nbsp; This charge I<br />
commit to you, Timothy, my son, in accordance with the prophetic utterances<br />
which pointed to you, that inspired by them you may wage the good warfare,</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal">19&nbsp; holding faith<br />
and a good conscience. By rejecting conscience, certain persons have made<br />
shipwreck of their faith,</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal">20&nbsp; among them<br />
Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have delivered to Satan that they may learn not<br />
to blaspheme.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal">&nbsp;</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">9. You are kept by the power of<br />
God.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Who are kept by<br />
the power of God </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; through faith<br />
unto salvation ready to be </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; revealed in the<br />
last time.&nbsp; (1Pe 1:5)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Your salvation comes,<br />
initially, &#8220;through faith&#8221;, but you are</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&#8220;kept by the power of God&#8221;. How<br />
could anyone kept by the power of</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">God ever fail to be kept?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">You seem to have<br />
forgot the &#8220;through faith&#8221; part.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">10.&nbsp; You are secure because the<br />
Lord Jesus has&nbsp; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; prayed that you would<br />
be. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; And now I am no<br />
more in the world, but </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; these are in the<br />
world,and I come to thee. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Holy Father,<br />
keep through thine own </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; name those whom<br />
thou hast given me, </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; that they may be<br />
one, as we are.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (Joh 17:11)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">When God the Son prays that you<br />
will be kept, you may rest assured</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">that His prayer will be<br />
answered.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">So Christians no<br />
longer have free will? How then did Peter deny Christ? </span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Christ prayed that<br />
all Christians would be one.&nbsp; Is there one church?&nbsp; Do we all agree?&nbsp; This<br />
prayer is similar to another Christ prayed aloud - to let His disciples hear His<br />
will and for their benefit.&nbsp; Christ never said that since He wished it it would<br />
be so.&nbsp; He still gives us free will. Let&#8217;s not twist the Word to suit us.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">11.&nbsp; Salvation is of the Lord.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; But I will<br />
sacrifice unto thee with the voice </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; of thanksgiving;<br />
I will pay that that I have </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; vowed. Salvation<br />
is of the LORD. (Jon 2:9)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I know that,<br />
whatsoever God doeth, it </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; shall be<br />
forever: nothing can be put to it, </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; nor any thing<br />
taken from it: and God </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; doeth it, that<br />
men should fear before </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; him.&nbsp; (Ecc 3:14)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Salvation is of the Lord, and<br />
if the Lord is the one who has saved you</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&#8221; I KNOW THAT WHATSOEVER GOD<br />
DOETH, IT SHALL BE FOREVER&#8221;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Again you ignore all<br />
the other passages!&nbsp; The question of salvation is of two parts: 1) God provides<br />
it as a free gift forever; 2) We have it as long as we follow Him and accept the<br />
gift. God will not change, but men do! God is always faithful, but Christians<br />
are CONSTANTLY encouraged to remain faithful. Why?</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">What of this in</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><br />
<b><span style="color:teal">1Peter 1?&nbsp; 10&nbsp; Therefore, brethren, be the more<br />
zealous to <u>confirm your call and election,</u> for if you do this you will<br />
never fall;</span></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal">11 <u>&nbsp;so there will<br />
be</u> richly provided for you an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord<br />
and Savior Jesus Christ</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">.&nbsp;<br />
<b><span style="color:blue">&nbsp;Why do these believers need to worry about being<br />
able to enter into eternal life?</span></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">12. Your salvation is dependant<br />
only upon God&#8217;s&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ability</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; For I know whom<br />
I have believed, and am </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; persuaded that<br />
He is able to keep that </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; which I have<br />
committed unto Him against </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; that day. (2Ti<br />
1:12)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">If you have committed your<br />
eternal soul to the Lord, the Bible says He</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">is able to keep it until that<br />
day when you are with Him in His</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">presence.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">And what of those<br />
who are no longer commited to God?&nbsp; Is Christ a liar when He says that if we<br />
deny Him before men He will deny us before the Father?&nbsp; Peter denied Christ<br />
before men, was he lost at that moment (Christ cannot lie), or was his<br />
repentance and heart toward God that which consequently saved him?</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">13.&nbsp;&nbsp; God promises you shall<br />
not come into&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; condemnation.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">The Lord Jesus promises that<br />
you shall never&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; perish.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Verily, verily,<br />
I say unto you, He that </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; heareth my word,<br />
and believeth on him </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; that sent me,<br />
hath everlasting life, and </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; shall not come<br />
into condemnation; but is </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; passed from<br />
death unto life.&nbsp; (Joh 5:24)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; My sheep hear my<br />
voice, and I know </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; them, and they<br />
follow me:And I give unto </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; them eternal<br />
life; and they shall never </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; perish, neither<br />
shall any man pluck them </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;out of my hand.&nbsp;<br />
(Joh 10:27-28)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">If anyone who has ever been<br />
saved, ever again came into condemnation,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">this promise would be broken.&nbsp;<br />
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Notice that Jesus did not make<br />
His promise conditional upon a certain</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">lifestyle.&nbsp; He said<br />
unequivocally &#8220;I give unto them eternal life and</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">they shall NEVER PERISH&#8221; </span>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Again, &#8220;believeth&#8221;<br />
is a continuing action, His sheep are those who &#8220;continue in the faith&#8221;(</span><span style="color:blue"><br />
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Joh 8:31, Ac<br />
13:43, Ac 14:22, </span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;color:blue">Ro 11:22, Col<br />
1:23, and so on and so on&#8230;)</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">14.&nbsp; You will never be cast<br />
out.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;All that the<br />
Father giveth me shall come </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; to me; and him<br />
that cometh to me I will in </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; no wise cast<br />
out.&nbsp; (Joh 6:37)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">The promise of the Lord Jesus<br />
is that for no reason, and in no way</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">will He ever cast out those who<br />
have been given into His care by God</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">the Father.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;<br />
color:blue">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">But we can leave, he<br />
will not prevent us!&nbsp; Witness Christï¿½s parable of the prodigal son! He was not<br />
cast out when he returned.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">YOU CAN NOT IGNORE<br />
SOME SCRIPTURE JUST BECAUSE IT DOESN&#8217;T FIT INTO WHAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE! </span><br />
</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal">2 Titus 3:16&nbsp; All<br />
scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for<br />
reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal">17&nbsp; That the man of<br />
God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. </span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">&nbsp;</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">15.&nbsp; It would not be good for<br />
you to loose your&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; salvation.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; And we know that<br />
all things work together </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; for good to them<br />
that love God, to them </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; who are the<br />
called according to his </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; purpose. (Rom<br />
8:28) </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">This verse is directed toward<br />
believers. The lost would not love God</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">(1 John 4:7b). How could it<br />
ever work together FOR GOOD to loose your</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">salvation? Yet, God promises<br />
that ALL THINGS will work together FOR</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">YOUR GOOD once you have<br />
received His gift of eternal life. And it</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">would not be good for you to<br />
loose your salvation.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#3366FF">Continuing<br />
action:</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:<br />
Arial;color:teal">&nbsp; &#8220;to them that love God&#8221;</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">It is God&#8217;s will<br />
that NONE should perish, there is obviously another factor here - our will!<br />
</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Certainly we see<br />
many things, even in our churches, that are not &#8216;good&#8217;, and people fall away<br />
every day. If they cease to love God, then they cease to be saved - salvation is<br />
by relationship with Christ.&nbsp; There are absolutely too many &#8220;ifs&#8221; in scripture<br />
for it to be any other way. </span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:teal">&nbsp;</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">16.&nbsp; You are in the hand of<br />
Christ.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You are in the hand of<br />
the Father.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; And I give unto<br />
them eternal life; and they </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; shall never<br />
perish, neither shall any man </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; pluck them out<br />
of my hand.&nbsp; (Joh 10:28)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;My Father, which<br />
gave them me, is </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; greater than<br />
all; and no man is able to </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; pluck them out<br />
of my Father&#8217;s hand. I and </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; my Father are<br />
one.&nbsp; (Joh 10:29-30)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Some say you must &#8216;hold out&#8217; in<br />
order to be saved. The Bible says</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">that the Lord is doing the<br />
holding.&nbsp; What&#8217;s more you have double</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">security. You are in the hand<br />
of both the Father and the hand of the</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Son. &#8220;No man&#8221; includes you, so<br />
you cannot remove yourself from the</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">hands of God.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">You don&#8217;t &#8220;hold<br />
out&#8221;, you remain faithful, or else!</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none"><b><br />
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">&nbsp;</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace: none">
<span style=&#8221;font-size:10.0pt;font-f</p>
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		<title>By: Leona</title>
		<link>http://www.remote-world.com/2007/05/17/can-a-christian-lose-their-salvation/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Leona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 17:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John. I would have liked to have replied sooner too but time just did not permit. I have done some research and here are several reasons that I have found that show a saved person can never loose their salvation. I will admit that I did nto have time to do all the research my self but I found a great book to help me start out my research. I checked out each of the verses and the context in which they are used and agree with each of them. So here goes. I sure hope this comes out right. Im cutting and pasting form the word program I saved it to. 

Bible Reasons Why A Saved Person Can Never Be Lost

1.  ETERNAL LIFE is ETERNAL and EVERLASTING LIFE is EVERLASTING 
                 And I give unto them eternal life; and 
                 they shall never perish, neither shall
                 any man pluck them out of my hand.   
                 (Joh 10:28)
	
                 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that  
                 heareth my word, and believeth on 
                 him that sent me, hath everlasting life,   
                 and shall not come into condemnation; 
                 but is passed from death unto life.   
                 (Joh 5:24)

If the ETERNAL life you received as a gift from God ever ceases for any reason it was not ETERNAL. Those who assume they have some sort of spiritual life, which ceases through sinful living, a change in beliefs, or for any other reason - did not have ETERNAL life. To be truly ETERNAL, it must not end.
Likewise, if EVERLASTING life ever ceases for ay reason - it was not EVERLASTING by the obvious definition of the word. The life, which God gives to the believer, must not end at any time, or it was never EVERLASTING life in the first place.

2.  It is not the will of God for a saved person to ever be lost.
               And this is the Father's will which hath 
               sent me, that of all which he hath given
               me I should lose nothing, but should 
               raise it up again at the last day.  
               (Joh 6:39)

Since Ephesians 1:11 says that God “worketh all things after the counsel of His own will,” His will must be fulfilled in preserving our salvation

3.  You already Have reservations in Heaven. 
      The Salvation You Have is INCORRUPTIBLE
      The Salvation You Have Inherited Cannot be  
        DEFILED
      You have been born of incorruptible seed.
               To an inheritance incorruptible, and 
               undefiled, and that fadeth not away, 
               reserved in heaven for you,  (1Pe 1:4)

               Being born again, not of corruptible seed, 
               but of incorruptible,by the word of God, 
               which liveth and abideth forever.  
               (1Pe 1:23)

Also Matthew 19:29 says that this inheritance includes everlasting life. 
Neither You nor Satan, nor anyone else can corrupt that which God has declared to be INCORRUBTIBLE
Neither You, nor Satan, nor anyone else can defile that which God has declared to be UNDEFILED
Your new birth was accomplished by an INCORRUPTIBLE SEED, and neither Satan nor man can corrupt a birth which God has declared to be INCORRUBTIBLE.

4.  At salvation you were sealed by the Holy Spirit. 
             In whom ye also trusted, after that ye 
             heard the word of truth, the gospel of your 
             salvation: in whom also after that ye 
             believed, ye were sealed with that Holy
             Spirit of promise,  (Eph 1:13)

No Power on Earth or in Heaven can break the seal set in place by Omnipotence.

5.   The Holy Spirit Promised to Abide with You  
        FOREVER       
              And I will pray the Father, and he shall 
              give you another Comforter, that he may 
              abide with you forever; Even the Spirit of 
              truth; whom the world cannot receive, 
              because it seeth him not, neither knoweth 
              him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with 
              you, and shall be in you. (Joh 14:16-17)

The coming of the Holy Spirit at Salvation to indwell the believer is a permanent transaction which lasts forever.

6. You are preserved forever.
               For the LORD loveth judgment, and  
               forsaketh not his saints; they are 
               preserved forever: but the seed of the 
               wicked shall be cut off.  (Psa 37:28)

The Bible identifies all who have been saved by the grace of God as “saints”. And “ His saints…are PRESERVED FOREVER”

7.  You have been born of God and cannot be  
         unborn
     You have been created by God and can never 
          be uncreated
               But as many as received him, to them 
               gave he power to become the sons of 
               God, even to them that believe on his 
               name: Which were born, not of blood, nor 
               of the will of the flesh, nor of the will
               of man, but of God.  (Joh 1:12-13)

               Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a 
               new creature: old things passed away; 
               behold, all things are become new. 
               (2Co 5:17)

               For we are his workmanship, created in 
               Christ Jesus unto good works, which 
               God hath before ordained that we should 
               walk in them. (Eph 2:10)

To facilitate our understanding of salvation, the Lord Jesus likened receiving eternal life to physical birth. He called it being “born again”. That analogy would be destroyed if someone who has been born of God could ever be “unborn” at some future time. There is only one Creator and that which He created cannot be uncreated

8.  You are preserved unto the Heavenly Kingdom
               And the Lord shall deliver me from every 
               evil work, and will preserve me unto his 
               heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory 
               forever and ever. Amen. (2Ti 4:18)

This was the testimony of the Apostle Paul by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, but it is our testimony as well because the Bible says that “God is no respecter of persons”. If he will preserve Paul, He will preserve you.

9. You are kept by the power of God.
               Who are kept by the power of God 
               through faith unto salvation ready to be 
               revealed in the last time.  (1Pe 1:5)

Your salvation comes, initially, “through faith”, but you are “kept by the power of God”. How could anyone kept by the power of God ever fail to be kept?

10.  You are secure because the Lord Jesus has  
          prayed that you would be. 
               And now I am no more in the world, but 
               these are in the world,and I come to thee. 
               Holy Father, keep through thine own 
               name those whom thou hast given me, 
               that they may be one, as we are.
               (Joh 17:11)

When God the Son prays that you will be kept, you may rest assured that His prayer will be answered.

11.  Salvation is of the Lord.
               But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice 
               of thanksgiving; I will pay that that I have 
               vowed. Salvation is of the LORD. (Jon 2:9)

               I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it 
               shall be forever: nothing can be put to it, 
               nor any thing taken from it: and God 
               doeth it, that men should fear before 
               him.  (Ecc 3:14)

Salvation is of the Lord, and if the Lord is the one who has saved you “ I KNOW THAT WHATSOEVER GOD DOETH, IT SHALL BE FOREVER”

12. Your salvation is dependant only upon God’s   
          ability
               For I know whom I have believed, and am 
               persuaded that He is able to keep that 
               which I have committed unto Him against 
               that day. (2Ti 1:12)

If you have committed your eternal soul to the Lord, the Bible says He is able to keep it until that day when you are with Him in His presence.

13.   God promises you shall not come into    
          condemnation.
The Lord Jesus promises that you shall never   
          perish.
               Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that 
               heareth my word, and believeth on him 
               that sent me, hath everlasting life, and 
               shall not come into condemnation; but is 
               passed from death unto life.  (Joh 5:24)

               My sheep hear my voice, and I know 
               them, and they follow me:And I give unto 
               them eternal life; and they shall never 
               perish, neither shall any man pluck them 
               out of my hand.  (Joh 10:27-28)

If anyone who has ever been saved, ever again came into condemnation, this promise would be broken.  
Notice that Jesus did not make His promise conditional upon a certain lifestyle.  He said unequivocally “I give unto them eternal life and they shall NEVER PERISH” 

14.  You will never be cast out.
               All that the Father giveth me shall come 
               to me; and him that cometh to me I will in 
               no wise cast out.  (Joh 6:37)

The promise of the Lord Jesus is that for no reason, and in no way will He ever cast out those who have been given into His care by God the Father.

15.  It would not be good for you to loose your    
          salvation.
               And we know that all things work together 
               for good to them that love God, to them 
               who are the called according to his 
               purpose. (Rom 8:28) 

This verse is directed toward believers. The lost would not love God (1 John 4:7b). How could it ever work together FOR GOOD to loose your salvation? Yet, God promises that ALL THINGS will work together FOR YOUR GOOD once you have received His gift of eternal life. And it would not be good for you to loose your salvation.

16.  You are in the hand of Christ.
        You are in the hand of the Father.
               And I give unto them eternal life; and they 
               shall never perish, neither shall any man 
               pluck them out of my hand.  (Joh 10:28)

               My Father, which gave them me, is 
               greater than all; and no man is able to 
               pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and 
               my Father are one.  (Joh 10:29-30)

Some say you must “hold out” in order to be saved. The Bible says that the Lord is doing the holding.  What’s more you have double security. You are in the hand of both the Father and the hand of the Son. “No man” includes you, so you cannot remove yourself from the hands of God.

17.  You are a sheep and will remain a sheep.
               My sheep hear my voice, and I know 
               them, and they follow me: And I give unto 
               them eternal life; and they shall never 
               perish, neither shall any man pluck them 
               out of my hand.  (Joh 10:27-28)

The Bible always refers to lost Gentiles as dogs and lost Jews as pigs. Salvation turns you into “a new creature” (2 Cor 5:17). Believers are pictured as sheep. No dog has ever changed himself into a sheep; only a miracle of God could accomplish that. Conversely, no sheep has ever changed himself into a dog; and neither can you.

18. Saving mercy never ends. 
               Not by works of righteousness which we 
               have done, but according to his mercy he 
               saved us, by the washing of 
                regeneration, and renewing of the Holy 
                Ghost;  (Tit 3:5)

Twenty six times in Psalm 136 we read “His mercy endureth forever.” The mercy by which He saved you was not a temporary thing, it will endure FOREVER!

19. God’s performance is as good as His  
          promise.
               God is not a man, that he should lie; 
               neither the son of man,that he should 
               repent: hath he said, and shall he not do 
               it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not 
               make it good? (Num 23:19)

God the Son has promised – “He that believeth on Me hath everlasting life.” (John 7:47). His performance is as good as His promise.

20. All your sins are gone forever. 
               As far as the east is from the west, so far 
               hath he removed our transgressions 
               from us.  (Psa 103:12)

               He will turn again, He will have 
               compassion upon us; He will subdue 
               our iniquities; and thou wilt cast all their 
               sins into the depths of the sea.  (Mic 7:19)

               I have blotted out, as a thick cloud, thy 
               transgressions, and,as a cloud, thy sins: 
               return unto me; for I have redeemed thee. 
               (Isa 44:22)

               Behold, for peace I had great bitterness: 
               but thou hast in love to my soul delivered 
               it from the pit of corruption: for thou hast 
               cast all my sins behind thy back. 
               (Isa 38:17)

               And their sins and iniquities will I 
               remember no more. (Heb 10:17)

“Cast into the dept of the sea”, “blotted out, as a thick cloud”, “Behind thy back”, “remove as far as the east is from the west”, “Remember no more”.  All these phrases testify that ALL your sins are gone forever. 

21. The Bible promises that you will ultimately be  
          like Christ.  
               Beloved, now are we the sons of God, 
               and it doth not yet appear what we shall 
               be: but we know that, when he shall 
               appear, we shall be like him; for we shall 
               see him as he is. (1Jo 3:2)

“ We SHALL be like Him” is not a statement of possibility, it is a statement of ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY

22.  You are already glorified, by God’s reckoning.
               Moreover whom he did predestinate, 
               them he also called: and whom he 
               called, them he also justified: and whom 
               he justified, them he also glorified. 
               (Rom 8:30)

How can someone who is glorified ever be lost?

23. You will appear with Christ in glory.
               When Christ, who is our life, shall 
               appear, then shall ye also appear with 
               him in glory. (Col 3:4)

Only an omniscient God who knew your future and accepted you in spite of it, could make this promise in advance of it’s fulfillment. He says to every believer “You SHALL appear with Him in glory”

24. You are hidden in the Lord Jesus Christ.
               For ye are dead, and your life is hid with 
               Christ in God. (Col 3:3)

By God’s evaluation, you are dead to natural life. The only life you have is the eternal life which He has given you, and it is HIDDEN in such a way that Satan cannot disturb it.

25. You are secure because the Lord is now     
          praying for you.
               Wherefore He is able also to save them 
               to the uttermost that come unto God by 
               Him, seeing He ever liveth to make 
               intercession for them.  (Heb 7:25)

With the Lord Jesus continually interceding for the believer, your salvation is to the “uttermost” or to the “full-ended” as it is in the Greek.

26. God will finish what He started. 
               Being confident of this very thing, that He 
               which hath begun a good work in you will 
               perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
               (Phi 1:6)

God, having begun the work of salvation in your life, will continue to perform that work until it is fully accomplished.

27. Your salvation was obtained for you by the   
          Lord. 
               Neither by the blood of goats and calves, 
               but by His own blood He entered in once 
               into the holy place, having obtained 
               eternal redemption for us. (Heb 9:12)

“By His Own blood … once … obtained eternal redemption”. We simply receive the eternal redemption the Lord Jesus has OBTAINED FOR US. Because He obtained it once, He obtained it forever.

28. Your life and the Lord’s life are one and the    
          same.
       You have become part of Christ Himself 
               When Christ, who is our life, shall 
               appear, then shall ye also appear with 
               Him in glory. (Col 3:4)

               For we are members of His body, of His 
               flesh, and of His bones. (Eph 5:30)

“Christ … is our life”. How can we loose our life unless He looses His life again? Since the Lord Jesus will never die and HE IS OUR LIFE, we, of necessity, have a life which will never end.
At salvation, we become “one flesh” with Christ who is the Heavenly bridegroom. This is a spiritual truth, but there is no scriptural foundation for denying it to be literally true as well. “In Him we live and move and have our being” (Acts 17:28) is a Bible truth that must certainly have a more intimate meaning for those who are “in Christ” (2 Cor 5:17). Consequently, the FLESH AND BONES OF CHRIST cannot be continually torn by men and women loosing their salvation.
 
29. God’s covenant with you is everlasting. 
               Now the God of peace, that brought 
               again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that 
               great shepherd of the sheep, through the 
               blood of the everlasting covenant, 
               (Heb 13:20)

               And I will make an everlasting covenant 
               with them, that I will not turn away from 
               them, to do them good; but I will put my 
               fear in their hearts, that they shall not 
               depart from me.  (Jer 32:40)

A covenant is an agreement, and God’s agreement with the believer is to give you EVERLASTING life through the blood of Christ.

30.  The Lord Jesus is able to keep you from   
          falling.
               Now unto him that is able to keep you 
               from falling, and to present you faultless 
               before the presence of His glory with 
               exceeding joy, (Jud 1:24)

Not only is the Lord able to keep you from falling, He is willing. “not willing that any should perish” (2Peter 3:9).  This is the answer to those who suggest that “falling from grace” is a means of loosing your salvation. 

31. When Jesus died for you all your sins were    
          future sins. 
               And other sheep I have, which are not of 
               this fold: them also I must bring, and they 
               shall hear my voice; and there shall be 
               one fold, and one shepherd. (Joh 10:16)

Here the Lord Jesus spoke of your salvation. He said that He had other sheep which were not of the Jewish fold, speaking of the Gentiles who would be saved in a day yet future. Your future sins cannot cause you to loose your salvation because when Jesus died for you EVERY SIN IN YOUR LIFE WAS A FUTURE SIN. You had not been born yet.

32. God Cannot Lie. 
               In hope of eternal life, which God, that 
               cannot lie, promised before the world 
               began; (Tit 1:2)

God cannot lie, and He has said of all TRUE believers, “They shall NEVER perish” (John 10:28). “He that believeth on the Son hath EVERLASTING LIFE” (John 3:36)  

33. Salvation is a gift which will not be retracted.
               For the wages of sin is death; but the gift 
               of God is eternal life through Jesus 
               Christ our Lord. (Rom 6:23)

               For by grace are ye saved through faith;     
               and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of 
               God: Not of works, lest any man should  
               boast.  (Eph 2:8-9)

               For the gifts and calling of God are 
               without repentance. (Rom 11:29)

The word “repentance” is the word “irrevocable” in the Greek.  Once God gives the gift of eternal life to someone, it is irrevocable. 

34. You have imputed righteousness. 
               Even as David also describeth the 
               blessedness of the man,unto whom God 
               imputeth righteousness without works, 
               Saying, Blessed are they whose 
                iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins 
                are covered.  (Rom 4:6-7)

To “impute” righteousness means to bestow by divine reckoning. If your righteousness was earned you could loose your salvation by unrighteous action. Because your righteousness has been imputed to you, based solely on the merits of Christ, your righteousness could only be lost if HE became unrighteous. 

35.  The Lord Jesus is the Author and Finisher of  
          your faith.
               Looking unto Jesus the author and 
               finisher of our faith; who for the joy that 
               was set before Him endured the cross, 
               despising the shame, and is set down at 
               the right hand of the throne of God.
               (Heb 12:2)

Not only is the Lord Jesus described as the AUTHOR of your faith, TO BEGIN IT, He is also described as the FINISHER – TO END IT. If you were to loose your salvation somewhere along the way, He would cease to be that which the Bible declares Him to be in your life.  You cannot finish or put an end to your faith. He is the Finisher.

36. The authority of the Word of God.
               These things have I written unto you that 
               believe on the name of  the Son of God; 
               that ye may know that ye have eternal life, 
               and that ye may believe on the name of 
               the Son of God. (1Jo 5:13)

               Blessed be the LORD, that hath given 
               rest unto his people Israel, according to 
               all that he promised: there hath not failed 
               one word of all his good promise, which 
               he promised by the hand of Moses 
               his servant. (1Ki 8:56)

               The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: 
               but the word of our God shall stand 
               forever. (Isa 40:8)

The previous reasons why a saved person cannot loose their salvation are the proof for this one, “The Authority of the Word of God.” By inspiration, the Spirit of God said “ These things have I written … that ye may know that ye have eternal life” God says that we can “Know” that we have life in Christ which will have no end, because of the things He has written to those who believe. The Bible has its own authority.


I also want to take a look at the life of Lot. We know that he was raised believing in God.  He worshiped and sacrificed with His uncle Abraham. We also know that he was righteous before God because God sent Angels to remove Lot and his family form Soddom and Gamorrah before God destroyed them. There is also evidence that while living in Soddom and Gamorrah that Lot was not living as he should be. He went to his family and told them what the angel of God had told him. They looked at him and said who are you?! That God should talk to you. They could not tell by his lifestyle that he was a righteous man. Lot’s wife was disobedient to God and looked back, she was not taught by her husband to obey the Lord. And we can tell that Lot’s daughters certainly were not brought up in the fear and admonition of the Lord by their actions toward their father. And at no time in the Bible do we ever see Lot returning to a right relationship with God. But God still considered him to be righteous and still saved him. I believe Lot’s story was to show us that though you may turn away, through Christ’s sacrifice on the cross you can still be righteous before God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John. I would have liked to have replied sooner too but time just did not permit. I have done some research and here are several reasons that I have found that show a saved person can never loose their salvation. I will admit that I did nto have time to do all the research my self but I found a great book to help me start out my research. I checked out each of the verses and the context in which they are used and agree with each of them. So here goes. I sure hope this comes out right. Im cutting and pasting form the word program I saved it to. </p>
<p>Bible Reasons Why A Saved Person Can Never Be Lost</p>
<p>1.  ETERNAL LIFE is ETERNAL and EVERLASTING LIFE is EVERLASTING<br />
                 And I give unto them eternal life; and<br />
                 they shall never perish, neither shall<br />
                 any man pluck them out of my hand.<br />
                 (Joh 10:28)</p>
<p>                 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that<br />
                 heareth my word, and believeth on<br />
                 him that sent me, hath everlasting life,<br />
                 and shall not come into condemnation;<br />
                 but is passed from death unto life.<br />
                 (Joh 5:24)</p>
<p>If the ETERNAL life you received as a gift from God ever ceases for any reason it was not ETERNAL. Those who assume they have some sort of spiritual life, which ceases through sinful living, a change in beliefs, or for any other reason - did not have ETERNAL life. To be truly ETERNAL, it must not end.<br />
Likewise, if EVERLASTING life ever ceases for ay reason - it was not EVERLASTING by the obvious definition of the word. The life, which God gives to the believer, must not end at any time, or it was never EVERLASTING life in the first place.</p>
<p>2.  It is not the will of God for a saved person to ever be lost.<br />
               And this is the Father&#8217;s will which hath<br />
               sent me, that of all which he hath given<br />
               me I should lose nothing, but should<br />
               raise it up again at the last day.<br />
               (Joh 6:39)</p>
<p>Since Ephesians 1:11 says that God “worketh all things after the counsel of His own will,” His will must be fulfilled in preserving our salvation</p>
<p>3.  You already Have reservations in Heaven.<br />
      The Salvation You Have is INCORRUPTIBLE<br />
      The Salvation You Have Inherited Cannot be<br />
        DEFILED<br />
      You have been born of incorruptible seed.<br />
               To an inheritance incorruptible, and<br />
               undefiled, and that fadeth not away,<br />
               reserved in heaven for you,  (1Pe 1:4)</p>
<p>               Being born again, not of corruptible seed,<br />
               but of incorruptible,by the word of God,<br />
               which liveth and abideth forever.<br />
               (1Pe 1:23)</p>
<p>Also Matthew 19:29 says that this inheritance includes everlasting life.<br />
Neither You nor Satan, nor anyone else can corrupt that which God has declared to be INCORRUBTIBLE<br />
Neither You, nor Satan, nor anyone else can defile that which God has declared to be UNDEFILED<br />
Your new birth was accomplished by an INCORRUPTIBLE SEED, and neither Satan nor man can corrupt a birth which God has declared to be INCORRUBTIBLE.</p>
<p>4.  At salvation you were sealed by the Holy Spirit.<br />
             In whom ye also trusted, after that ye<br />
             heard the word of truth, the gospel of your<br />
             salvation: in whom also after that ye<br />
             believed, ye were sealed with that Holy<br />
             Spirit of promise,  (Eph 1:13)</p>
<p>No Power on Earth or in Heaven can break the seal set in place by Omnipotence.</p>
<p>5.   The Holy Spirit Promised to Abide with You<br />
        FOREVER<br />
              And I will pray the Father, and he shall<br />
              give you another Comforter, that he may<br />
              abide with you forever; Even the Spirit of<br />
              truth; whom the world cannot receive,<br />
              because it seeth him not, neither knoweth<br />
              him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with<br />
              you, and shall be in you. (Joh 14:16-17)</p>
<p>The coming of the Holy Spirit at Salvation to indwell the believer is a permanent transaction which lasts forever.</p>
<p>6. You are preserved forever.<br />
               For the LORD loveth judgment, and<br />
               forsaketh not his saints; they are<br />
               preserved forever: but the seed of the<br />
               wicked shall be cut off.  (Psa 37:28)</p>
<p>The Bible identifies all who have been saved by the grace of God as “saints”. And “ His saints…are PRESERVED FOREVER”</p>
<p>7.  You have been born of God and cannot be<br />
         unborn<br />
     You have been created by God and can never<br />
          be uncreated<br />
               But as many as received him, to them<br />
               gave he power to become the sons of<br />
               God, even to them that believe on his<br />
               name: Which were born, not of blood, nor<br />
               of the will of the flesh, nor of the will<br />
               of man, but of God.  (Joh 1:12-13)</p>
<p>               Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a<br />
               new creature: old things passed away;<br />
               behold, all things are become new.<br />
               (2Co 5:17)</p>
<p>               For we are his workmanship, created in<br />
               Christ Jesus unto good works, which<br />
               God hath before ordained that we should<br />
               walk in them. (Eph 2:10)</p>
<p>To facilitate our understanding of salvation, the Lord Jesus likened receiving eternal life to physical birth. He called it being “born again”. That analogy would be destroyed if someone who has been born of God could ever be “unborn” at some future time. There is only one Creator and that which He created cannot be uncreated</p>
<p>8.  You are preserved unto the Heavenly Kingdom<br />
               And the Lord shall deliver me from every<br />
               evil work, and will preserve me unto his<br />
               heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory<br />
               forever and ever. Amen. (2Ti 4:18)</p>
<p>This was the testimony of the Apostle Paul by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, but it is our testimony as well because the Bible says that “God is no respecter of persons”. If he will preserve Paul, He will preserve you.</p>
<p>9. You are kept by the power of God.<br />
               Who are kept by the power of God<br />
               through faith unto salvation ready to be<br />
               revealed in the last time.  (1Pe 1:5)</p>
<p>Your salvation comes, initially, “through faith”, but you are “kept by the power of God”. How could anyone kept by the power of God ever fail to be kept?</p>
<p>10.  You are secure because the Lord Jesus has<br />
          prayed that you would be.<br />
               And now I am no more in the world, but<br />
               these are in the world,and I come to thee.<br />
               Holy Father, keep through thine own<br />
               name those whom thou hast given me,<br />
               that they may be one, as we are.<br />
               (Joh 17:11)</p>
<p>When God the Son prays that you will be kept, you may rest assured that His prayer will be answered.</p>
<p>11.  Salvation is of the Lord.<br />
               But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice<br />
               of thanksgiving; I will pay that that I have<br />
               vowed. Salvation is of the LORD. (Jon 2:9)</p>
<p>               I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it<br />
               shall be forever: nothing can be put to it,<br />
               nor any thing taken from it: and God<br />
               doeth it, that men should fear before<br />
               him.  (Ecc 3:14)</p>
<p>Salvation is of the Lord, and if the Lord is the one who has saved you “ I KNOW THAT WHATSOEVER GOD DOETH, IT SHALL BE FOREVER”</p>
<p>12. Your salvation is dependant only upon God’s<br />
          ability<br />
               For I know whom I have believed, and am<br />
               persuaded that He is able to keep that<br />
               which I have committed unto Him against<br />
               that day. (2Ti 1:12)</p>
<p>If you have committed your eternal soul to the Lord, the Bible says He is able to keep it until that day when you are with Him in His presence.</p>
<p>13.   God promises you shall not come into<br />
          condemnation.<br />
The Lord Jesus promises that you shall never<br />
          perish.<br />
               Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that<br />
               heareth my word, and believeth on him<br />
               that sent me, hath everlasting life, and<br />
               shall not come into condemnation; but is<br />
               passed from death unto life.  (Joh 5:24)</p>
<p>               My sheep hear my voice, and I know<br />
               them, and they follow me:And I give unto<br />
               them eternal life; and they shall never<br />
               perish, neither shall any man pluck them<br />
               out of my hand.  (Joh 10:27-28)</p>
<p>If anyone who has ever been saved, ever again came into condemnation, this promise would be broken.<br />
Notice that Jesus did not make His promise conditional upon a certain lifestyle.  He said unequivocally “I give unto them eternal life and they shall NEVER PERISH” </p>
<p>14.  You will never be cast out.<br />
               All that the Father giveth me shall come<br />
               to me; and him that cometh to me I will in<br />
               no wise cast out.  (Joh 6:37)</p>
<p>The promise of the Lord Jesus is that for no reason, and in no way will He ever cast out those who have been given into His care by God the Father.</p>
<p>15.  It would not be good for you to loose your<br />
          salvation.<br />
               And we know that all things work together<br />
               for good to them that love God, to them<br />
               who are the called according to his<br />
               purpose. (Rom 8:28) </p>
<p>This verse is directed toward believers. The lost would not love God (1 John 4:7b). How could it ever work together FOR GOOD to loose your salvation? Yet, God promises that ALL THINGS will work together FOR YOUR GOOD once you have received His gift of eternal life. And it would not be good for you to loose your salvation.</p>
<p>16.  You are in the hand of Christ.<br />
        You are in the hand of the Father.<br />
               And I give unto them eternal life; and they<br />
               shall never perish, neither shall any man<br />
               pluck them out of my hand.  (Joh 10:28)</p>
<p>               My Father, which gave them me, is<br />
               greater than all; and no man is able to<br />
               pluck them out of my Father&#8217;s hand. I and<br />
               my Father are one.  (Joh 10:29-30)</p>
<p>Some say you must “hold out” in order to be saved. The Bible says that the Lord is doing the holding.  What’s more you have double security. You are in the hand of both the Father and the hand of the Son. “No man” includes you, so you cannot remove yourself from the hands of God.</p>
<p>17.  You are a sheep and will remain a sheep.<br />
               My sheep hear my voice, and I know<br />
               them, and they follow me: And I give unto<br />
               them eternal life; and they shall never<br />
               perish, neither shall any man pluck them<br />
               out of my hand.  (Joh 10:27-28)</p>
<p>The Bible always refers to lost Gentiles as dogs and lost Jews as pigs. Salvation turns you into “a new creature” (2 Cor 5:17). Believers are pictured as sheep. No dog has ever changed himself into a sheep; only a miracle of God could accomplish that. Conversely, no sheep has ever changed himself into a dog; and neither can you.</p>
<p>18. Saving mercy never ends.<br />
               Not by works of righteousness which we<br />
               have done, but according to his mercy he<br />
               saved us, by the washing of<br />
                regeneration, and renewing of the Holy<br />
                Ghost;  (Tit 3:5)</p>
<p>Twenty six times in Psalm 136 we read “His mercy endureth forever.” The mercy by which He saved you was not a temporary thing, it will endure FOREVER!</p>
<p>19. God’s performance is as good as His<br />
          promise.<br />
               God is not a man, that he should lie;<br />
               neither the son of man,that he should<br />
               repent: hath he said, and shall he not do<br />
               it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not<br />
               make it good? (Num 23:19)</p>
<p>God the Son has promised – “He that believeth on Me hath everlasting life.” (John 7:47). His performance is as good as His promise.</p>
<p>20. All your sins are gone forever.<br />
               As far as the east is from the west, so far<br />
               hath he removed our transgressions<br />
               from us.  (Psa 103:12)</p>
<p>               He will turn again, He will have<br />
               compassion upon us; He will subdue<br />
               our iniquities; and thou wilt cast all their<br />
               sins into the depths of the sea.  (Mic 7:19)</p>
<p>               I have blotted out, as a thick cloud, thy<br />
               transgressions, and,as a cloud, thy sins:<br />
               return unto me; for I have redeemed thee.<br />
               (Isa 44:22)</p>
<p>               Behold, for peace I had great bitterness:<br />
               but thou hast in love to my soul delivered<br />
               it from the pit of corruption: for thou hast<br />
               cast all my sins behind thy back.<br />
               (Isa 38:17)</p>
<p>               And their sins and iniquities will I<br />
               remember no more. (Heb 10:17)</p>
<p>“Cast into the dept of the sea”, “blotted out, as a thick cloud”, “Behind thy back”, “remove as far as the east is from the west”, “Remember no more”.  All these phrases testify that ALL your sins are gone forever. </p>
<p>21. The Bible promises that you will ultimately be<br />
          like Christ.<br />
               Beloved, now are we the sons of God,<br />
               and it doth not yet appear what we shall<br />
               be: but we know that, when he shall<br />
               appear, we shall be like him; for we shall<br />
               see him as he is. (1Jo 3:2)</p>
<p>“ We SHALL be like Him” is not a statement of possibility, it is a statement of ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY</p>
<p>22.  You are already glorified, by God’s reckoning.<br />
               Moreover whom he did predestinate,<br />
               them he also called: and whom he<br />
               called, them he also justified: and whom<br />
               he justified, them he also glorified.<br />
               (Rom 8:30)</p>
<p>How can someone who is glorified ever be lost?</p>
<p>23. You will appear with Christ in glory.<br />
               When Christ, who is our life, shall<br />
               appear, then shall ye also appear with<br />
               him in glory. (Col 3:4)</p>
<p>Only an omniscient God who knew your future and accepted you in spite of it, could make this promise in advance of it’s fulfillment. He says to every believer “You SHALL appear with Him in glory”</p>
<p>24. You are hidden in the Lord Jesus Christ.<br />
               For ye are dead, and your life is hid with<br />
               Christ in God. (Col 3:3)</p>
<p>By God’s evaluation, you are dead to natural life. The only life you have is the eternal life which He has given you, and it is HIDDEN in such a way that Satan cannot disturb it.</p>
<p>25. You are secure because the Lord is now<br />
          praying for you.<br />
               Wherefore He is able also to save them<br />
               to the uttermost that come unto God by<br />
               Him, seeing He ever liveth to make<br />
               intercession for them.  (Heb 7:25)</p>
<p>With the Lord Jesus continually interceding for the believer, your salvation is to the “uttermost” or to the “full-ended” as it is in the Greek.</p>
<p>26. God will finish what He started.<br />
               Being confident of this very thing, that He<br />
               which hath begun a good work in you will<br />
               perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:<br />
               (Phi 1:6)</p>
<p>God, having begun the work of salvation in your life, will continue to perform that work until it is fully accomplished.</p>
<p>27. Your salvation was obtained for you by the<br />
          Lord.<br />
               Neither by the blood of goats and calves,<br />
               but by His own blood He entered in once<br />
               into the holy place, having obtained<br />
               eternal redemption for us. (Heb 9:12)</p>
<p>“By His Own blood … once … obtained eternal redemption”. We simply receive the eternal redemption the Lord Jesus has OBTAINED FOR US. Because He obtained it once, He obtained it forever.</p>
<p>28. Your life and the Lord’s life are one and the<br />
          same.<br />
       You have become part of Christ Himself<br />
               When Christ, who is our life, shall<br />
               appear, then shall ye also appear with<br />
               Him in glory. (Col 3:4)</p>
<p>               For we are members of His body, of His<br />
               flesh, and of His bones. (Eph 5:30)</p>
<p>“Christ … is our life”. How can we loose our life unless He looses His life again? Since the Lord Jesus will never die and HE IS OUR LIFE, we, of necessity, have a life which will never end.<br />
At salvation, we become “one flesh” with Christ who is the Heavenly bridegroom. This is a spiritual truth, but there is no scriptural foundation for denying it to be literally true as well. “In Him we live and move and have our being” (Acts 17:28) is a Bible truth that must certainly have a more intimate meaning for those who are “in Christ” (2 Cor 5:17). Consequently, the FLESH AND BONES OF CHRIST cannot be continually torn by men and women loosing their salvation.</p>
<p>29. God’s covenant with you is everlasting.<br />
               Now the God of peace, that brought<br />
               again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that<br />
               great shepherd of the sheep, through the<br />
               blood of the everlasting covenant,<br />
               (Heb 13:20)</p>
<p>               And I will make an everlasting covenant<br />
               with them, that I will not turn away from<br />
               them, to do them good; but I will put my<br />
               fear in their hearts, that they shall not<br />
               depart from me.  (Jer 32:40)</p>
<p>A covenant is an agreement, and God’s agreement with the believer is to give you EVERLASTING life through the blood of Christ.</p>
<p>30.  The Lord Jesus is able to keep you from<br />
          falling.<br />
               Now unto him that is able to keep you<br />
               from falling, and to present you faultless<br />
               before the presence of His glory with<br />
               exceeding joy, (Jud 1:24)</p>
<p>Not only is the Lord able to keep you from falling, He is willing. “not willing that any should perish” (2Peter 3:9).  This is the answer to those who suggest that “falling from grace” is a means of loosing your salvation. </p>
<p>31. When Jesus died for you all your sins were<br />
          future sins.<br />
               And other sheep I have, which are not of<br />
               this fold: them also I must bring, and they<br />
               shall hear my voice; and there shall be<br />
               one fold, and one shepherd. (Joh 10:16)</p>
<p>Here the Lord Jesus spoke of your salvation. He said that He had other sheep which were not of the Jewish fold, speaking of the Gentiles who would be saved in a day yet future. Your future sins cannot cause you to loose your salvation because when Jesus died for you EVERY SIN IN YOUR LIFE WAS A FUTURE SIN. You had not been born yet.</p>
<p>32. God Cannot Lie.<br />
               In hope of eternal life, which God, that<br />
               cannot lie, promised before the world<br />
               began; (Tit 1:2)</p>
<p>God cannot lie, and He has said of all TRUE believers, “They shall NEVER perish” (John 10:28). “He that believeth on the Son hath EVERLASTING LIFE” (John 3:36)  </p>
<p>33. Salvation is a gift which will not be retracted.<br />
               For the wages of sin is death; but the gift<br />
               of God is eternal life through Jesus<br />
               Christ our Lord. (Rom 6:23)</p>
<p>               For by grace are ye saved through faith;<br />
               and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of<br />
               God: Not of works, lest any man should<br />
               boast.  (Eph 2:8-9)</p>
<p>               For the gifts and calling of God are<br />
               without repentance. (Rom 11:29)</p>
<p>The word “repentance” is the word “irrevocable” in the Greek.  Once God gives the gift of eternal life to someone, it is irrevocable. </p>
<p>34. You have imputed righteousness.<br />
               Even as David also describeth the<br />
               blessedness of the man,unto whom God<br />
               imputeth righteousness without works,<br />
               Saying, Blessed are they whose<br />
                iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins<br />
                are covered.  (Rom 4:6-7)</p>
<p>To “impute” righteousness means to bestow by divine reckoning. If your righteousness was earned you could loose your salvation by unrighteous action. Because your righteousness has been imputed to you, based solely on the merits of Christ, your righteousness could only be lost if HE became unrighteous. </p>
<p>35.  The Lord Jesus is the Author and Finisher of<br />
          your faith.<br />
               Looking unto Jesus the author and<br />
               finisher of our faith; who for the joy that<br />
               was set before Him endured the cross,<br />
               despising the shame, and is set down at<br />
               the right hand of the throne of God.<br />
               (Heb 12:2)</p>
<p>Not only is the Lord Jesus described as the AUTHOR of your faith, TO BEGIN IT, He is also described as the FINISHER – TO END IT. If you were to loose your salvation somewhere along the way, He would cease to be that which the Bible declares Him to be in your life.  You cannot finish or put an end to your faith. He is the Finisher.</p>
<p>36. The authority of the Word of God.<br />
               These things have I written unto you that<br />
               believe on the name of  the Son of God;<br />
               that ye may know that ye have eternal life,<br />
               and that ye may believe on the name of<br />
               the Son of God. (1Jo 5:13)</p>
<p>               Blessed be the LORD, that hath given<br />
               rest unto his people Israel, according to<br />
               all that he promised: there hath not failed<br />
               one word of all his good promise, which<br />
               he promised by the hand of Moses<br />
               his servant. (1Ki 8:56)</p>
<p>               The grass withereth, the flower fadeth:<br />
               but the word of our God shall stand<br />
               forever. (Isa 40:8)</p>
<p>The previous reasons why a saved person cannot loose their salvation are the proof for this one, “The Authority of the Word of God.” By inspiration, the Spirit of God said “ These things have I written … that ye may know that ye have eternal life” God says that we can “Know” that we have life in Christ which will have no end, because of the things He has written to those who believe. The Bible has its own authority.</p>
<p>I also want to take a look at the life of Lot. We know that he was raised believing in God.  He worshiped and sacrificed with His uncle Abraham. We also know that he was righteous before God because God sent Angels to remove Lot and his family form Soddom and Gamorrah before God destroyed them. There is also evidence that while living in Soddom and Gamorrah that Lot was not living as he should be. He went to his family and told them what the angel of God had told him. They looked at him and said who are you?! That God should talk to you. They could not tell by his lifestyle that he was a righteous man. Lot’s wife was disobedient to God and looked back, she was not taught by her husband to obey the Lord. And we can tell that Lot’s daughters certainly were not brought up in the fear and admonition of the Lord by their actions toward their father. And at no time in the Bible do we ever see Lot returning to a right relationship with God. But God still considered him to be righteous and still saved him. I believe Lot’s story was to show us that though you may turn away, through Christ’s sacrifice on the cross you can still be righteous before God.</p>
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		<description>1 John 4
1 ¶  Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2  Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3  And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.


Leona,
   I love to hear from you and your husband, as your spirit testifies of your love of Christ. Sorry it took so long for me to respond. I have compiled some verses that have struck me on this subject, thought this list is not complete.  I’m using some new bible software, so I hope these are all from the KJV, as I too believe it is the most accurate English translation.  Please take your Strong’s concordance and Greek dictionary and check the tense of some words such as “have believed” in 2 Timothy.  The word ‘have’ is not only past tense, but is also an ongoing tense, and, in this case, speaks of continuing faith. In Romans 10:9 and others the word believe is an ongoing action. If it is only past tense then has the belief stopped?  And remember, the demons believe, and tremble…  
  It is true that if we believe on Him (continuing) and confess Him with our mouth (continuing) we will be saved, but what if we forsake our first love and abandon Him?  Does that invalidate our previous relationship with Him?  How do people like this then exhibit the gifts of the spirit?  Does God make a contract with us and refuse to let us break it? If those people never knew Christ, then how is it that Scripture speaks of them who have known the gifts and the spirit and then have broken fellowship?
  I believe that the Word of God is perfect and inerrant.  Therefore we must take it as a whole. It must be ALL true, or we can trust none of it. So, when we come to things that may seem to contradict each other we realize that there is something we don’t yet understand.   

  My words are inadequate for the task.  I ask you to consider the following Scripture, as a whole, not just as individual statements.


Mt 10:22  And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
Mt 24:13  But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Mr 13:13  And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Mr 16:16  He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Joh 10:9  I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

Ac 2:21  And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Ac 11:14  Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved.
Ac 15:11  But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

Ro 2:5  But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
6  Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
7  To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
8  But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
9  Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

Ro 5:9  Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Ro 5:10  For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Ro 9:27  Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:
Ro 10:13  For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Ro 11:26  And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

1 Cor 9:23  And this I do for the gospel’s sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.
24 ¶  Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.
25  And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
26  I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
27  But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

Phil. 2:12 ¶  Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
3:9 ¶  And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
10  That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
11  If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
12  Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.
13  Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,

Col. 1:22  In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
23  If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard


1Ti 2:15  Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. 11  But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry;
12  Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.
13  And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not.
14  I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.
15  For some are already turned aside after Satan.

1Ti 6:12   Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.

6:19   Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.

2 Ti 1:11  Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.
12  For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.
13  Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
14  That good thing which was committed unto thee keep by the Holy Ghost which dwelleth in us.
15 ¶  This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes.
16  The Lord give mercy unto the house of Onesiphorus; for he oft refreshed me, and was not ashamed of my chain:
17  But, when he was in Rome, he sought me out very diligently, and found me.
18  The Lord grant unto him that he may find mercy of the Lord in that day: and in how many things he ministered unto me at Ephesus, thou knowest very well.

11  It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:
12  If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
13  If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

7  I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:
8  Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

Hebrews 3
6  But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
7 ¶  Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,
8  Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
9  When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
10  Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
11  So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)
12  Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
13  But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
14  For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
15  While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
16  For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
17  But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?
18  And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
19  So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

Heb 4:1 ¶  Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2  For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3  For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4  For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5  And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6  Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7  Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8  For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9  There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10  For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11 ¶  Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

Heb 6:4  For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5  And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6  If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
7  For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:
8  But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
9 ¶  But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak.
10  For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.
11  And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:
12  That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.


Heb 10:25  Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
26  For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27  But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28  He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29  Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 
30  For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31  It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

38  Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
39  But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

Hebrews 12
13  And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed.
14  Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
15  Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;
16  Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.
17  For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.

Heb 12:25  See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
26  Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
27  And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
28  Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

Jas 2:19  Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20  But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
2 Peter
20  For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21  For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them

1John 2
22  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24  Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.

Rev 2:11  He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.
Rev. 3

. 5  He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

15  I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16  So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

Rev 4: 1 ¶  And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.
2  Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
3  Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
4  Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.
5  He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 John 4<br />
1 ¶  Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.<br />
2  Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:<br />
3  And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.</p>
<p>Leona,<br />
   I love to hear from you and your husband, as your spirit testifies of your love of Christ. Sorry it took so long for me to respond. I have compiled some verses that have struck me on this subject, thought this list is not complete.  I’m using some new bible software, so I hope these are all from the KJV, as I too believe it is the most accurate English translation.  Please take your Strong’s concordance and Greek dictionary and check the tense of some words such as “have believed” in 2 Timothy.  The word ‘have’ is not only past tense, but is also an ongoing tense, and, in this case, speaks of continuing faith. In Romans 10:9 and others the word believe is an ongoing action. If it is only past tense then has the belief stopped?  And remember, the demons believe, and tremble…<br />
  It is true that if we believe on Him (continuing) and confess Him with our mouth (continuing) we will be saved, but what if we forsake our first love and abandon Him?  Does that invalidate our previous relationship with Him?  How do people like this then exhibit the gifts of the spirit?  Does God make a contract with us and refuse to let us break it? If those people never knew Christ, then how is it that Scripture speaks of them who have known the gifts and the spirit and then have broken fellowship?<br />
  I believe that the Word of God is perfect and inerrant.  Therefore we must take it as a whole. It must be ALL true, or we can trust none of it. So, when we come to things that may seem to contradict each other we realize that there is something we don’t yet understand.   </p>
<p>  My words are inadequate for the task.  I ask you to consider the following Scripture, as a whole, not just as individual statements.</p>
<p>Mt 10:22  And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.<br />
Mt 24:13  But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.</p>
<p>Mr 13:13  And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.<br />
Mr 16:16  He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.</p>
<p>Joh 10:9  I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.</p>
<p>Ac 2:21  And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.<br />
Ac 11:14  Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved.<br />
Ac 15:11  But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.</p>
<p>Ro 2:5  But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;<br />
6  Who will render to every man according to his deeds:<br />
7  To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:<br />
8  But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,<br />
9  Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;</p>
<p>Ro 5:9  Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.<br />
Ro 5:10  For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.<br />
Ro 9:27  Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:<br />
Ro 10:13  For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.<br />
Ro 11:26  And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:</p>
<p>1 Cor 9:23  And this I do for the gospel’s sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.<br />
24 ¶  Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.<br />
25  And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.<br />
26  I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:<br />
27  But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.</p>
<p>Phil. 2:12 ¶  Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.<br />
3:9 ¶  And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:<br />
10  That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;<br />
11  If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.<br />
12  Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.<br />
13  Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,</p>
<p>Col. 1:22  In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:<br />
23  If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard</p>
<p>1Ti 2:15  Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. 11  But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry;<br />
12  Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.<br />
13  And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not.<br />
14  I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.<br />
15  For some are already turned aside after Satan.</p>
<p>1Ti 6:12   Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.</p>
<p>6:19   Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.</p>
<p>2 Ti 1:11  Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.<br />
12  For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.<br />
13  Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.<br />
14  That good thing which was committed unto thee keep by the Holy Ghost which dwelleth in us.<br />
15 ¶  This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes.<br />
16  The Lord give mercy unto the house of Onesiphorus; for he oft refreshed me, and was not ashamed of my chain:<br />
17  But, when he was in Rome, he sought me out very diligently, and found me.<br />
18  The Lord grant unto him that he may find mercy of the Lord in that day: and in how many things he ministered unto me at Ephesus, thou knowest very well.</p>
<p>11  It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:<br />
12  If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:<br />
13  If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.</p>
<p>7  I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:<br />
8  Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.</p>
<p>Hebrews 3<br />
6  But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.<br />
7 ¶  Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,<br />
8  Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:<br />
9  When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.<br />
10  Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.<br />
11  So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)<br />
12  Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.<br />
13  But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.<br />
14  For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;<br />
15  While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.<br />
16  For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.<br />
17  But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?<br />
18  And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?<br />
19  So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.</p>
<p>Heb 4:1 ¶  Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.<br />
2  For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.<br />
3  For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.<br />
4  For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.<br />
5  And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.<br />
6  Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:<br />
7  Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.<br />
8  For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.<br />
9  There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.<br />
10  For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.<br />
11 ¶  Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.</p>
<p>Heb 6:4  For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,<br />
5  And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,<br />
6  If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.<br />
7  For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:<br />
8  But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.<br />
9 ¶  But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak.<br />
10  For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.<br />
11  And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:<br />
12  That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.</p>
<p>Heb 10:25  Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.<br />
26  For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,<br />
27  But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.<br />
28  He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:<br />
29  Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?<br />
30  For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.<br />
31  It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.</p>
<p>38  Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.<br />
39  But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.</p>
<p>Hebrews 12<br />
13  And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed.<br />
14  Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:<br />
15  Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;<br />
16  Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.<br />
17  For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.</p>
<p>Heb 12:25  See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:<br />
26  Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.<br />
27  And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.<br />
28  Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:</p>
<p>Jas 2:19  Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.<br />
20  But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?<br />
2 Peter<br />
20  For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.<br />
21  For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them</p>
<p>1John 2<br />
22  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.<br />
23  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.<br />
24  Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.</p>
<p>Rev 2:11  He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.<br />
Rev. 3</p>
<p>. 5  He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.</p>
<p>15  I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.<br />
16  So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.</p>
<p>Rev 4: 1 ¶  And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.<br />
2  Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.<br />
3  Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.<br />
4  Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.<br />
5  He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.</p>
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		<title>By: Leona</title>
		<link>http://www.remote-world.com/2007/05/17/can-a-christian-lose-their-salvation/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Leona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 04:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your answer. I too have done alot of research on this topic and I have come to the opposite conclusion. I agree that the Bible encourages us to endure to the end. But that those that do have a crown of righetousness laid up in Heaven. If the reward for enduring to the end was our salvation there would be no need for further reward.  For those who deny Christ I believe that you can do this in your flesh but if you are truly saved then your spirit can not deny Christ. When we are saved the Holy Spirt dwell in us. Because God Christ and the Holy Ghost are one they cannot be divided. If a kingdom be divided against its self how can it stand? That being said I believe that a person who is truly saved cannot deny Christ. You quoted where the Bible says that no man can pluck you from the hand of Christ. We are selves are meerly men, so we too are included. 
     2Timothy 1:12 says For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.  Notice that this is past tense. I know whom I HAVE believed. And HAVE committed. And that it is not you who has to keep your but that HE
is able.  
     Unfortunatly this means that there are many people out there who believe that they can say a little prayer and be done. But there are many who believe they are saved and are not. It is not you who chooses to say a prayer and be saved. It is He who calls you to repentance and salvation. When you are brought to a knowlege of your sins put under conviction by the Holy Spirit, come to repentance and give up your life to Christ then you are saved. And at the same time your heart is changed. You can try to return to the world but you will find no comfort there. You will find that those things that brought you joy in the past no longer do. Solomon spoke of this in Ecclesiastes. 
   I do believe in backsliding as spoken of in the Bible. And that God will place stumbling blocks to try and turn you back to Him. But that those who do not turn back will die physically.  Those who are born again and profess to be Christians but living like the world are a bad witness for Christ. God will being them home early with out the rewards they might other wise recieve, rather than allow them to continue on this earth giving Him a bad name.
     I would like to turn you to Romans 10:9 which says " That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. " It says thou SHALT because it is God who saves and He says He will save you then He will. God keeps His promises.
  I would encourage anyone who says they are a Christian and Born again to examine their lives. Are you living for God, and if your not does it bother you or do you recieve the same joy you always did before you said a prayer or made a profession. If you can continue to live like the world they you need to think back and see if you can truly remember a time when you came under conviction and realized you were a sinner headed to Hell in need of a Savior. You can not frecieve salvation with out first comming to the knowledge of your sin and turning from it. And then giving your life over to Christ. It is not simply enough to ask Christ into your life. It is still YOUR life. Christ does not want to be merely part of your life he wants you to give your life over to Him completly. 
  If you are truly saved you will be forever changed you will not have joy in the worldly things you once did (as Solomon explained) and if you try to continue to live as you used to you will be taken home early. You will stand before the Judgement seat of Christ and will have to give an account for your words and actions. You may think you have a free ticket being saved by grace and no longer having to keep the law but you will have no reward in Heaven and will have a shorter live here on earth. Think of this too the law says thou shall not commit murder; Grace says if you hate your brother you have committed murder in your heart. The law says thou shalt not commit adultery, Grace says if you look upon a woman to lust after he hyou have commited adultery with her already in your heart. So for any one who is truly saved by the Grace of God and feels they have a free ticket they are mistaken. 
    The problem is that too many people/churches/pastors who teach once saved always saved but do not teach of the rewards in Heaven for those who faithfuly live for God. And do not teach the concequences for those who do not.   

Thank You so much John for this site. I enjoy the discussion. It challenges me to studay my Bible more. If your up for it I would love to discuss/debate Bible "Versions" with you. If you can tell where I do quote the Bible it is King James only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your answer. I too have done alot of research on this topic and I have come to the opposite conclusion. I agree that the Bible encourages us to endure to the end. But that those that do have a crown of righetousness laid up in Heaven. If the reward for enduring to the end was our salvation there would be no need for further reward.  For those who deny Christ I believe that you can do this in your flesh but if you are truly saved then your spirit can not deny Christ. When we are saved the Holy Spirt dwell in us. Because God Christ and the Holy Ghost are one they cannot be divided. If a kingdom be divided against its self how can it stand? That being said I believe that a person who is truly saved cannot deny Christ. You quoted where the Bible says that no man can pluck you from the hand of Christ. We are selves are meerly men, so we too are included.<br />
     2Timothy 1:12 says For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.  Notice that this is past tense. I know whom I HAVE believed. And HAVE committed. And that it is not you who has to keep your but that HE<br />
is able.<br />
     Unfortunatly this means that there are many people out there who believe that they can say a little prayer and be done. But there are many who believe they are saved and are not. It is not you who chooses to say a prayer and be saved. It is He who calls you to repentance and salvation. When you are brought to a knowlege of your sins put under conviction by the Holy Spirit, come to repentance and give up your life to Christ then you are saved. And at the same time your heart is changed. You can try to return to the world but you will find no comfort there. You will find that those things that brought you joy in the past no longer do. Solomon spoke of this in Ecclesiastes.<br />
   I do believe in backsliding as spoken of in the Bible. And that God will place stumbling blocks to try and turn you back to Him. But that those who do not turn back will die physically.  Those who are born again and profess to be Christians but living like the world are a bad witness for Christ. God will being them home early with out the rewards they might other wise recieve, rather than allow them to continue on this earth giving Him a bad name.<br />
     I would like to turn you to Romans 10:9 which says &#8221; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. &#8221; It says thou SHALT because it is God who saves and He says He will save you then He will. God keeps His promises.<br />
  I would encourage anyone who says they are a Christian and Born again to examine their lives. Are you living for God, and if your not does it bother you or do you recieve the same joy you always did before you said a prayer or made a profession. If you can continue to live like the world they you need to think back and see if you can truly remember a time when you came under conviction and realized you were a sinner headed to Hell in need of a Savior. You can not frecieve salvation with out first comming to the knowledge of your sin and turning from it. And then giving your life over to Christ. It is not simply enough to ask Christ into your life. It is still YOUR life. Christ does not want to be merely part of your life he wants you to give your life over to Him completly.<br />
  If you are truly saved you will be forever changed you will not have joy in the worldly things you once did (as Solomon explained) and if you try to continue to live as you used to you will be taken home early. You will stand before the Judgement seat of Christ and will have to give an account for your words and actions. You may think you have a free ticket being saved by grace and no longer having to keep the law but you will have no reward in Heaven and will have a shorter live here on earth. Think of this too the law says thou shall not commit murder; Grace says if you hate your brother you have committed murder in your heart. The law says thou shalt not commit adultery, Grace says if you look upon a woman to lust after he hyou have commited adultery with her already in your heart. So for any one who is truly saved by the Grace of God and feels they have a free ticket they are mistaken.<br />
    The problem is that too many people/churches/pastors who teach once saved always saved but do not teach of the rewards in Heaven for those who faithfuly live for God. And do not teach the concequences for those who do not.   </p>
<p>Thank You so much John for this site. I enjoy the discussion. It challenges me to studay my Bible more. If your up for it I would love to discuss/debate Bible &#8220;Versions&#8221; with you. If you can tell where I do quote the Bible it is King James only.</p>
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